Smoke from fires in Canada is going South

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    Here in Wisconsin we are being choked with smoke from the fires burning in Canada. In some parts of the state visibility is down to five miles. what is the smoke like where you are at?

    Surely this is cooling the planet. :)
     
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    It has dipped into our area at times but not recent that I know of. It is more a higher altitude haze than a ground-level nuisance when it does. I am sensitive to wood smoke and I never really noticed it as a problem, but I know some who claimed to be able to smell it in the air. I would imagine that being in Wisconsin you get a lot being much closer. Kind of the same way you probably don't notice when Tennessee is burning but it really stinks up the place around here when they have a lot of wildfires going on.
     
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    It's come and gone a couple times here in Virginia. Makes it so you can't see the mountains sometimes.

    As for cooling the planet, it hasn't done jack to cool our summer.
     
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    Wisconsin summer has been rather mild, I'd say... a few days it has eclipsed the 90 degree mark, but most days have been in the 80s (some even in the upper 70s).

    The couple months or so with virtually no rain was a different experience than most years though. I'm sure that was caused by us "MAGA Republicans" who are causing "climate change". Non-ideal weather is all our fault. Everything bad that happens is all our fault all the time.

    My response? "Don't care, still voting for Trump (and only Trump)".
     
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    I hear ya!
     
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    There are rumors that most of theses Canada wild fires were started by arsonists. I suspect the Chinese Communist Party is involved. They know the jet stream dips south from about Montana and into the center of of the United States.

    It's just a rumor. Been a lot of unusual fires in the food supply chain here in the states. Sneaky and crafty communist sabotage, probably.
     
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    Canada Forest Fires Trend Has Gone Down Since 2000, Data Defy Alarmist Claims
    By P Gosselin on 27. August 2023

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    Arson likely at play…images for shock journalists

    By Klimanachrichten

    Unusual weather situations are always the hour of attribution researchers these days. Canada is suffering from forest fires again this year. The reason is the persistent drought. According to a study, climate change has doubled the likelihood of forest fires in Canada:

    Extreme wildfire conditions in Canada have been fueled by intense, spatially extensive and persistent fire-conducive weather conditions, known as fire weather, which has been observed since the beginning of May throughout the country. Canada has experienced its warmest May-June period since 1940, beating the previous record set in 1998 by a huge margin (0.8°C). At the national scale, relative humidity was also very low. The warm and dry conditions, together with continuous southeasterly winds fueled extensive fire spread in Alberta, British Columbia, central Saskatchewan and southwestern portions of the Northwest Territories.

    There are at least 17 direct fatalities linked to the fires, more than 150,000 people have been evacuated, and at least 200 structures, including homes, were damaged in the fires (AP News, 2023). The Canadian wildfires have severely impacted air quality locally in Canada, and in the neighboring United States with Air Quality Index (AQI) values frequently exceeding safe levels in the Midwest and northeast USA, and in some cases approaching record levels (e.g. on June 7th AQI reached 341 in New York City, considered hazardous for all residents) (CNBC, 2023). Similarly, in southern Ontario, including the cities of Ottawa and Toronto, air quality reached the ‘very high risk’ level forcing officials to cancel public events and reduce hours for outdoor public services. Schools remained closed for several days in many states, including Nova Scotia, New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut.”

    Trend defies alarmist claims

    But the country’s official wildfire statistics do not show this suspected trend. Statista lists them. Strictly speaking, the trend in the number of fires is actually decreasing until 2022. For 2023, the numbers will rise again to August 23, 2023 almost 6,000 fires were counted. But that will still be below the 2006 figures.

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    Now the study does not say that the number of forest fires has doubled, but the probability. That’s different, of course, but it’s hard to grasp, because in the end it’s the fires and the damage they cause that count. In the case of Canada, there are aggravating circumstances. Unlike in Europe, forest fires there can have natural triggers, i.e. lightning. This does not exclude arson, but broadens the sources of ignition.

    A CBS report puts the number of natural causes at 50%. Jörg Kachelmann already assumed deliberate arson in June 2023 in the Kölner Stadtanzeiger. At that time it burned in the east of the country and the smoke went as far as the USA.

    Kachelmann also assumes humans are the cause of the increased number of wildfires in eastern Canada. He tweeted a satellite image of the fires on the east coast, showing the individual sources of fire. Within an hour, there had been fires in more than ten places, Kachelmann wrote. Thunderstorms could not be considered as the cause of the fires, because this did not correspond to the weather situation at that time.

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    Kachelmann assumes deliberate arson and says it was also clear at the time where the smoke would travel, namely to the East Coast of the United States. ‘I have never seen such a mass arson and it is very intriguing,” Kachelmann commented further.'”

    He even suspected arson to create certain images in the media. The ZDF reports in its foreign news “Auslandsjournal” about the fires and lets Zeke Hausfather come to word. He also mentions the last 3 La Nina years, which would have delayed an increase in warming. This is noteworthy because such natural climate forcings do not appear in many reports. Hausfather describes a mix as emissions by humans and such forcings as a combination. The program can be seen until November 23,2023 in the ZDF-Media archives.
     

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