So I tried asking out a girl...

Never Give Up Krane! Never!

 

know when to cut your losses.

 

HA!!!!!!

 

Sorry Krane. I won't say you'll be fine because I used to hate it when my mom said it to me, but - trust me- you will.

Janpor I live in Germany and have lived in the US and South Africa too.

I must say that I think that your views are a bit too general.
I met my husband on the net and we most certainly went out on a date.

Where I do agree with you is that in Germany at least, it is not typical that a man picks you up and brings you home or pays for the date. You usually split it.

 

ask out some other girls and she may get jealous and want ya!! I loved the German girls they would ask you out , made it easy I tell ya!

 

You shouldn't try asking girls out anymore.... I mean it isn't bad, but it also isn't necessary. If you are "in love" with her, that implies to me that you spend a lot of time with her outside school. During one of those social situations, just kiss her. If she kisses you back, you are in. If she pulls away, you have your answer. If you drink, you can use a little alcohol to reduce some of the inhibition if that will help you.


PS. How many times have you asked her out? How did you ask her out? Was it like "Do you want to go see a movie with me friday?" Which may be clear, but is not explicit. Or were you explicit?

 

He's 16 y/o, may not be a good idea to encourage minors to consume alcohol.

 

It doesn't happen often where I am from either, and I am American. That doesn't mean you don't date people, you just don't go about it by asking a girl to go steady. I haven't asked a girl out, as the initial starting point of a relationship possibly in my whole life.

 

I didn't realize that, but now that I know, that doesn't really change anything. 16 year olds drink alcohol, quite often actually. More often than many adults really. And I didn't encourage it, I just said "if you drink." And if he does, trying to kiss her at a party or something else like that would be a good way of going about it for him.

 

We're adults. I do not encourage minors to drink alcohol under any circumstances...even something as innocuous as an internet forum. Yes many kids drink, but I'm not going to condone it.....ever. 19 or 20 years old, yeah I can say that's pretty much an adult anyway, but 16 is still very impressionable. They look to adults as role models.
*wink wink, nod nod* Hey kid if you drink, it will lower your inhibitions *wink wink*..you insinuate it's "cool" for a 16 year old to drink...and we adults should not be sending kids that message.

In my opinon.

 

I will put on my adult hat then herk. Krane, if you drink, don't ever under any circumstances drive!! Even one drink, when you think you are fine, can ruin your life and the lives of others. Is that better? That is the best I can do. Some 16 year olds drink, trying to stop that is a fruitless endeavor.

 

16 1/2. Krane. You don't need a GF right now. Learn how to shoot. Get involved in some manly stuff. Work, get a car, make a plan for leaving home and either going to school or getting a job and getting your own place. Sixteen year old girls are stupid.

and another thing: You aren't ready for a relationship as evidenced from your initial post. You fall in love with whom you allow yourself to fall in love with. Protect your heart and mind better and wait for the right one. Take it slow.

 

You're not encouraging it, you just have a passe' attitude about it...sometimes apathy is as bad as condoning it..but we're going off topic.

The kid is 16, he's going to have lots of opportunites to date girls in the future...he thinks he's found "the one," is all.

 

Good grief .... he said he'd been asking for a date for MONTHS.....females who play 'hard to get' don't refuse for months b/c he just might give up and find someone else...

 

You beat me to it.....

 

Ummm ... I don't know about that. Reading your post, I was remembering my HS yrs and it was fun w/my bf & I going to HS proms, other dances, football games & after school activities, all of us hanging out together and usually as couples, etc.....

The teen yrs is a time of your life that's preparing you for adulthood, emotionally/psychologically. For the teen to go thru the ups and downs of romance, being 'in love', the break-ups, learning how to talk to a girl (or guy) .... all those aches, pains & thrills of growing up is important. Not good for a teen to be a loner and never having what he would call his gf and 16 isn't to soon, if it happens for them. Then some teens start later.....

But you're right in him working and learning others skills.....

 

she didn't say no to him so she enjoys playing the role of prey and him predator, this is evolutionary trait in the mating ritual

 

Eww...kissing drunk men...yuck yuck yuck...all slobbery and everything...yick...

 

LMAO...I bet you got your woman (or...a restraining order )

 

Most young girls won't make the 1st move like older women, but when they seriously like a guy, they are on the tip of their toes waiting for that guy to ask THEM out. Young people in general get infatuated with someone they like. She wasn't playing hard to get, she didn't want to hurt his feelings and was hoping he would move on without need of an incident, more than likely because they see each other so often and she didn't want bad blood between them. The "evolutionary trait in the mating ritual"? Really? I stand by my initial response to your post.

I think your insight into the fairer sex is right up there with your economic prowess.

 

You are more clueless about women than Kranes. No it isn't part of the game. I'm busy means no. Chalk her up to the game and move on. Plenty of other fish in the sea.

 

sure. I agree with you but he said...he was IN LUV. You're not in love at 16. It's your hormones. Best to learn control. 30 is too late.

 

All girls make the first move. Its just up to the man to see it. Most guys cant. The predator doesn't run wildly into the herd and start chancing everything that moves. He sits and waits.

He watches the herd intensely and picks up on the signals given off by each member of the heard. Once he has identified the members of the herd that he has the most chance of a successful kill he moves in with singular focus on his prey. This is what separates masters from armature pickup artists.

Sure you can hit on every girl in the club. Sure there are hos in every club. But you wont get much quality cold approaching every single living thing.

My rules

#1 Dress well. This is more important than anything. How you start is how you finish. When you step into a room alone every single woman will immediately size you up. How well dressed you are is the single most important thing you can control to get women to take interest in you. Your looks are out of your control so don't worry about them.

#2 Hunt alone! Do not go out in a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)pack. When I said "you step into a room alone" I meant it. When a pack of guys steps into a room woman cant size each of them up so you start off poorly and how you start is how you finish.

#3 Learn to read the signals. Go to a nice open area where you can be seen and start scanning the room. If they are interested they will give you signals.

#4 Play the game. When you get a signal make eye contact and hold it. She will look away. That doesn't mean she isn't interested. Keep looking at her. She will look back. When she looks back smile. She will smile back. Now grab you balls(figuratively) like you've got a pair and approach.

At this stage its over. Everything from here on out is academic. This is what most guys don't get. They think about opening lines how to talk to girls etc. No. You are either in or you are out before you have ever said a word.

 

I love it when people answer their own questions in the first post.

 

Never. Never make the first move. If you do, you've handed control to him and he will treat you that way. If he is a man, he will have the huevos to make the first move.

...creepy...and possibly self absorbed and a bit boring. (not you, the impression)

Not everyone likes "masters". Genuine guys with genuine interest are good.

It's how you wear it. Clothes...only to a degree. Some guys wear a suit to work and can't wait to change to go out at night. Some guys who wear suits ...are "The Accused". Some guys take a bit too much care over their appearance and that is a bad sign. Good hygiene and wear something decent, but be comfortable in your own skin and clothes and don't overkill.

Never "hunt" and never hunt alone. Guys who are alone are suspect weirdos and possibly dangerous. Never speak to loners. You want a guy who visibly has friends and is sociable and normal. Otherwise he could be some weirdo who has only come into the area for the night with bad intentions.

Go and talk to your friends and enjoy them. Women and everyone else, will want to join your party and by being perfectly normal and just enjoying yourself, you display your sense of humour and stable personality, thus making yourself approachable.

SSsssss....ok eye contact is important. Girls, just take your drink, bend your head to listen as your friend talks into your ear and look up and make eye contact for an imperceptible second at that moment. He is toast. You don't even have to bother smiling.

The decision is made to let you talk, but unless she's totally drunk or dumb she might still be screening when you open your mouth. I suppose it depends what kind of place you're in and what she is looking for.