So there's this girl...

I wasnt attacking Catholicism as such, if you read my closing statement:

I do know from my experience in Sales of about 20 yrs ago, living on the 'front range' in Col Springs' and crossing the mtns to Salt lake City, that they had their own suppliers of the products I was selling, and I looked out of place with my long hair (over the ears), full beard, button-down western shirt, new Wrangler jeans, cowboy boots , and a brown corduroy jacket...which was typical & acceptable on the front range side, but not matching the folks that I was dealing with in SLC, who were clean shaven, short haired, and wore very conservative looking suits, etc. They listened to my spiel, were polite, but it became obvious that they had their own ppl regardless of my lower prices, state-of-the-art products, etc.

But I've seen the same among Jewish communities also...tight knit, favoring 'their own.'

 

"Is Mormonism Christian?" The answer is simple. No. Mormonism is not Christian.

If you are a Mormon, please realize that CARM is not trying to attack you, your character, or the sincerity of your belief. If you are a non-Mormon looking into Mormonism, or if you are a Christian who is simply researching Mormonism, then this article should be of help.

Source: http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian

Also witthin 5 miles of my residence is a Jewish temple, many churches of protestantism, and within 10 miles a mosque.

Each and everyone one of those faithful, I am pleased to share as a neighbor...including Mormons.

The question I address is...should Mormonism be included under the umbrella of Christianity...

I would respond...by saying no.

You'll hear a lot of...well Catholics are papists, they have rules about receiving communion and are stand-offish...my protestant fatih is the best way to approach being a Christian. Well, we will bicker about that, but speaking for myself I regard Protestants as fellow Christians..yes even fundamentalists.

We accept Jesus Christ as the Son of God and as our Savior.

Correct, we share this...as catholic or protestant....the issue is, Mormonism...not to attack the faith or the Mormon, but is it Christian...

I would answer, no, and many agree with me.

 

Lol, when I was in high school I got a real kick out of it when I asked certain people if they were Christian and they said, "no, I'm Catholic."

 

The scripture that says "A little leaven (yeast in bread) leavens the whole lump." Leaven is used as an analogy for : untruths, corruption, etc. And for the most part, leaven has gotten into most of the Christian denominations, from a history of corruption in the Roman Catholic church (Romish Church) to the modern evangelistic churches with things like 'the prosperity message,' and 'name it & claim it."

The 2 days/nights that I spent in SLC, I read the Book of Mormon (was in the room, no Gideon Bible) to see what was in it, and having previously read the anti-Mormon book "The Godmakers,' and found some stuff that sounded like it came right out of the Bible, and then some stuff that didnt 'witness to my spirit' as being "of God."

But since then, I have met several Mormons who knew the Bible, trusted in Jesus Christ for their salvation, and were somewhat detached from the classic Mormon teachings. In the vein of "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved,"..their trust was not in their 'church' or in their denomination, but in the work at the cross and in the name of Jesus Christ.

And so I try not to judge others faith but try to see them as God does--individually.

 

No they are Mormons.

 

Theologically, I am World's apart with Mormonism, however we are united in a common defense of our faiths against secularist attack. Should a Mormon temple or Mormonism itself come under fire for it's very existence in an increasingly areligious, secular Western culture and it's hostility to organized religion....you had better believe what side I take.

The Mormons.

 

To return to the subject of this thread I will note that you started in late October, were still getting "Leaving early" by mid-November and I've seen no further developments here 2 weeks shy of Christmas.

That doesn't bode well as most women who are interested will move things along a little faster than that. OTOH, she may not wish to appear forward. So, unless you need more "friends" I would make a move now. What do you have to lose?

 

[video=youtube;4yBdfKojZFM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yBdfKojZFM&feature=c4-overview&list=UUD4xqm6vJ3K4ntppsE1jL4g[/video]

Probably not the best video to start you off with since they're totally hamming it up here and it might undermine what they are actually saying, but this is a basic primer for everything you need to know. I strongly recommend checking out the rest of their videos and Youtube channels when you get the chance. But only if you're ready to have your eyes opened about how the world really works. And everyone in this thread that's about to dog on what they are saying here isn't supposed to understand it. In fact, they have other videos where they discuss that very thing and why it happens.

Hope this helps. Best of luck, man.

Jackpot! \m/

 

Well, it looks like things are moving along a little fast now.

So a few days ago on Thursday we had another youth group meeting. However, the girl in question messaged me on Facebook asking if I could arrive an hour early so I could help set up the activity, which takes place after the sermon. The fact that she chose me out of everyone was interesting, as was the prospect of working alone with her.

I arrived at the correct time as did she and a friend she brought with her, who in fact was also very attractive. Anyway, we had a lot of setting up to do in the church's gym and we spent the next hour or so completing the task. It wasn't hard to talk to her at all by this point, and we had some very good conversations while working. Her friend chimed in a lot, too.

After the sermon and the activity, as I was about to leave, she told me she was extremely grateful that I took time out of my day to help her, as there was no way her and her friend could do it alone in that short period of time. She gave me a smile and then I had to leave for home to finish some reading for class the next day.

Overall, we didn't get intimate or anything, but it was a big step forward, especially since it involved me offering physical labor with the setting up and lightening her mood in the process.

 

I dont know what being under fire by hostile secularists would consist of
or ifsuch a thing has ever happened, but it sounds bad.

I suppose I'd side with the mormons, they seem decent people who dont deserve hostility and attacks.

 

If you do not make a move soon, it isn't going to happen!! You will fall into the friend zone and never get out of it. Ask her out soon, or you will fall into that zone for good.

 

No, they aren't.

 

My secular daughter just came out of relationship with religious leaning person, I warned her it could all go bad from day one those differences are deal breakers once the glow of early lovey romance cools...and it did he became abusive and demanding it was his relgious beliefs that must be followed she had to conform...my secular niece had the same problems when she married a Jehovahs witness, then divorced...things get ugly when romance meets reality, particularly when the topic of unborn childrens religious future arises...

People from two different religions can coexist as long as they have similar levels of religious commitment...a secular with a religious person will rarely work out IMO as the secular partner is expected to give up on their personal integrity...

 

agnostic with a mormon?...unless you're prepared to become a mormon walk away...

 

Mormons are generally nice in nature when talking with one another. It's how they seduce people into their insane perversion of an already insane religion. lol DON'T FALL FOR IT! lol

j/k

Do what you want, but if she's pretty hardcore mormon, don't be surprised if she treats you different when you refuse to convert.

 

There's this girl that I like, she really wants me but has a boyfriend. I actually ran into her boyfriend today.

While she's working two jobs, he's off smoking bowls and playing Goldeneye. Yes, Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64. No, you didn't just fall through a time warp. He's stoned and playing Goldeneye on the N64 while she's at her second job.

I can probably pull this off...