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  1. PolakPotrafi

    PolakPotrafi Banned

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    A strong disproportionate amount of Africans in the U.S.A also belong to the crème of the crop of Africa, whom many come here for education purposes, or are part of brain-drain from Africa's elite.

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    George Washington Carver didn't invent peanut butter.

    But, Tesla did invent alternate current, remote controls, unmanned aerial vehicles, and numerous other useful applications.
     
  2. Abram Jones

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    It's completely different in the fact that investment increases their standard of living rather than decreasing it. There is a big difference between leaving primitive people alone and manipulating them. Sure, you can find instances where they are left alone for long periods of time, it is a big world. But they have largely been manipulated for cheap resources and labor. This is unforgivable. Since we have done so much damage to Africa's economy and society it is our responsibility to offer legitimate aid. Charitable aid is usually garbage in the long run, investment is a proven method. You try to paint this hilariously delusional liberal white fantasy that Africa is an untouched land full of primitives who just want to live free and dance naked among the animals. And what you propose is almost worse than the nonsense Polakpotrafi is pushing.
     
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    This is true, and it does not go against my argument in any way, shape, or form. With that said, I have also met many Africans that are not from such backgrounds who are also extremely hard workers, though uneducated. If they were educated by modern standards from birth they would be much more productive than the average American is (since they are largely untouched by consumerism and have a more traditional work ethic).
     
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    'primitive people' are already pursuing happiness, why do you feel the need to increase their standard of living to fulfill your need of how you think they should pursue happiness?

    some people like living free and dancing naked among the animals over staring at your i fones.
     
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    this takes privilege away from Americans and gives it to africans in some sort of evil affirmative action policy.

    why not encourage Americans to be harder workers with higher pay, instead of punish them for not being harder workers by giving their jobs away to poor africans, who are willing to work harder for lesser money?

    you know that false moral compass makes the rich richer?
     
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    Can't be done - it's in their DNA, same as the psychological characteristics of the masses in other regions of the world is in theirs.
     
  7. liberalminority

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    i guess i will have to accept more of this logic since President Trump is our new President.

    i blame the 'intellectuals' and their support for greed of the rich which empowers it through disenfranchisement of the poor, not those who follow the logic.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [​IMG] Is he? Thank gawd for that - WW3 has been averted.

    Quite so - bloody 'intellectuals'? They're almost as much a PITA as liberals.
     
  9. Abram Jones

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    We've already been over this. You're racist (just as bad if not worse than polak), those people generally want to have a higher standard of living. Secondly, U.S. government and corporations have purposely oppressed several economies around the world to keep their standard of living low for the purpose of cheap labor and resources. These people are not "dancing free among the animals" they are working as slave laborers for cheap products for your ignorant ass.

    You are a complete numskull. In this context I am not talking about taking anything away from anyone. I was explaining that Africans are just as capable as Americans, and in some ways more (due to a more traditional work ethic). Due to historic sequence Americans and Northwestern Europeans have leverage over others because of industrialization, that is the only main difference. In no way shape or form am I talking about affirmative action. How you are retarded enough to accuse me of something I've always been against and in no way implied that I'm for is beyond me. I'll tell you what makes the rich richer, people like you who consistently think with their ass.
     
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    For starters, liberalminority translation of what I've been saying is largely inaccurate. Secondly, no, it is not in their DNA. Parts of Africa have already been successfully industrialized. Not only is there an abundance of scientific evidence against some type of genetic difference in such a context, but there is already economic proof of success (though limited), even in the face of manipulation from foreign powers or isolation from the path of historic technological progress.
     
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    Yes, but with Western and Chinese money and know-how? Did you read the news story of the guy who was paid to break in girls barely into puberty? Routine circumcision of all children with the approval of their parents? Or that witchdoctors, often more than one, are a part of every tribe? Africa is a lost continent and it always will be.
     
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    no your ideal steals the african from his natural habitat running free in the serengeti hunting and gathering for food, and tells him he must compete in your industrial market for prosperity.

    you say he has to do this because he is oppressed by the white man in northwestern europe and America who have 'leverage' over him, when he never felt oppressed until your ideal got there.

    now that he notices he is behind in this industrial competition started by your ideal, he will give up his dignity unknowingly and work for less which you call a 'traditional work ethic', and make those who share your ideal richer at the expense of those who are aware of this devious affirmative action policy with 'good intentions'.
     
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    Welcome mr nice guys.
     
  14. Abram Jones

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    You have got to be kidding me, this is your argument? You people are an embarrassment to intelligence itself. Before receiving any further substantial response from me you must first learn the most elementary of economics, until then your level of thinking is too shallow to be reasoned with.


    Again, you don't even understand my original points and can only respond with this nonsense. You clearly do not know anything about Africa or its history. The point is Africa has been wronged by your ideas, and it is simple decency to repay that. But what we see happen is the opposite, the people and system you support continuously manipulate the people, and support corruption there. And for what purpose? Greed, instant gratification, and waste.
     
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    africa isn't over populated, it is one of the few countries left on earth where the natives can keep their ancient traditions and pursue happiness as hunter gatherers.

    you want to ruin that with a naive moral compass, or worse.
     
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    Morality is based on mores so not a great indication of success. Education is a good indicator yet economically successful countries are not always about education but resources and luck.
     
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    Educational achievement isn't necessarily a sign of progress if it's just a degree mill.
     
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    Noted. :thumbsup: (What a pompous prat - he calls me a cnut then runs away! Ah well, as they say . . . it takes all sorts!!)
     
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    So what? Those are nice ideals but what dies that havevto do with you joining this forum?
     
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    I think that you may enjoy this discussion which I believe brings up some ideas relevant to all nations.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...weimar-republic-inflation-i-ever-read.502018/

    Best explanation for Weimar Republic Inflation I ever read....

     

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