Sociology isn’t a real academic subject

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I couldn't agree more. Sociology isn't a real academic subject. Nor is it science in the slightest. At least not as the term is meant to be applied. Science relies on hard provable facts that are repeatable when tested for.

Sociology on the other hand often requires assumptions be made even while conducting what they consider "studies". Real science does not depend on such. Something either fits, or it doesn't, and its provable either way.

Frankly I think that the Board of Governors and the State Board of Education are being lenient in still letting it be taught. At most it should be a footnote in history. And it should be purged as having any sort of title that relates to science.

 

I agree and am pleased by what Florida is doing regarding education K-college.

 

Climatology is also a pseudo science. As is psychology. The only real science that I care about as a conservative is whatever makes corn dogs and boner medicine.

 

I too, am glad the flat-earthers have gained control of Florida. Makes life so much easier if there is no creative thought in education.

 

as a person with children that went to college, I can say there are many courses that had nothing to do with the field the degree was for, just a moneymaker for the college

 

I disagree with you on both of those. Weather, global and local, can be tracked scientifically, its the predictions that are iffy. As for psychology, I think its fine being considered a soft science. It actually does have provable results.

 

You'll have to prove that statement.

Also, have anything relevant to say in regards to the OP? Or are you just here to bash?

 

He's demonstrating to us his creative thought in action !

 

Thanks!

 

That is terrible to hear.

 

"Science relies on hard provable facts that are repeatable when tested for."

That's great. Economics should then be on the chopping block next.

In any case, it's actually funny to see the science deniers bloviate about what "real" science is.

 

It is debatable as to whether economics should be considered a science but it at least has a distinct core subject area of study. Sociology doesn't even have that.

And I wouldn't be talking about "science deniers". The left has science deniers also. Such as believing that men can be women and women can be men and KNOW it by the age of at least 3 years old.

 

So, therefore, Florida's reasoning to remove sociology from the core curriculum was B$? As expected. BTW: Economics is a social science, too. It's all about how individual behavior affects the wealth of individuals (micro) and the country, or even the world as a whole (macro). So, as a social science that is not testable by control experiments, it should be off the curriculum, too.

 

That they are still teaching it means it is still a "real" academic subject. Führer DeSantis is a lame duck. Whatever he changes, the next person can change back.

 

I don't agree with that. When I was in undergraduate school, I took a number "free electives" in the Arts and Science school. I was in the business school. They included European history, psychology, political science and foreign affairs. Those courses, which represented 15 out of the 120 credits I needed to graduate, got me started on learning about things beyond the accounting and finance I used to earn a living after graduation. I welcomed those courses.

The foreign affairs professor wanted to take me in as an intern because of my business trading. Things might have changed if I had taken him up on that.

Now there were some silly courses. One was "The Government and History of Delaware" which the state legislature forced everyone to take to graduate. Many students cut all of the classes and read the textbook sometime before the final exam so that they could get a C. I got a B.

I think you had to get all of the "multiple guess" question right in the final to get an A. I probably forgot who perfected the hybrid for Delaware peaches. It was a guy named Rybold. Don't ask me his first name.

 

How'd you get that from my post?

And yes, I know what economics is. But thank you for explaining it for those that might not. Psychology also is a social science. The fact that these subjects, sociology, psychology, economics are "soft sciences" is not what is being talked about.

As for testable by controlled experiments, economics and psychology can in fact be tested in controlled environments. They each have core subject matters that allow such. The hard part for them is that the results can vary widely, mainly because humans vary widely. Sociology on the other hand does not have a core subject matter and relies on assumptions far more than any other subject matter in colleges. There isn't a single "study" I've ever seen from sociology that doesn't start off with an assumption and then work its way towards that assumption as a conclusive conclusion. Or to put it another way, they start off with a conclusion, and then makes any "study" conducted work towards that conclusion and always get that conclusion.

 

I don't think you know what the words "lame duck" means. But at least everyone here knows that you're not here to have a discussion, just here to bash. Which means your posts can safely be ignored.

 

Desantis is term limited. He cannot run again. He is, therefore, a lame duck governor. Deal with it.

 

And perhaps you should deal with the fact that the Democrat Party can't come up with decent presidential candidate. The one you have can't put a coherent sentence together, and thinks that dead people are the heads of state in France and Germany.

 

so you do not agree, but then give examples of classes that agree with what I said

 

I don't know what you mean. I guess you think that you should get an undergraduate degree with 100 or so credit hours because the 15 hour of free electives are not necessary.

Graduate school did stick people with unnecessary courses that had no credit toward graduation. One of their tricks was to give test where you were supposed to write a business memo in 15 minutes. Very few people passed it, and you were forced to take a useless business writing course for no credit.

I was and still am a published author in the numismatic and political items hobby field. I've been paid for my work over the years. It's not a living, but it's not been peanuts either. Yet, I was deemed as a person who "can't write." It was no fun when I was cramming 23 to 24 credits a semester to get through as fast as possible when I had to show up for another course.

 

I think if you're paying for a degree in computer programming, learnign computer programming is what you should be paying for as an example

 

You will have to argue with the people who give accreditations to the colleges. Their concept is that "a college educated person" should be "well rounded." If you don't like that, you can look for a trade school. They used advertise of TV, ITT Technical Institute or something like that. There are others, but I'm old and done working except for an article now and then.

If a college is not accredited, a degree from it is worthless.

 

and that is why student loans are what they are....

 

That and greed on the part of the people who colleges and universities.

Why do you think that so many of them are progressives who support big government? Part of it is because they are liberal and think government is great. BUT another part is because big government feeds them millions though useless research grants and student loans. Biden is completing the circle by forgiving student loans. Now the colleges and universities can charge all they want, and the students will take "loans" because they won't have to pay them back.

Back in the late 1960s and early 1970s, my tuition at the University of Delaware was less than $600 a semester. I could take all the courses I could cram in. At Rutgers grad school in the late the 1970s, it was a few thousand. I was getting a bargain by taking 24 credits a semester.