South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder of Walter Scott

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  1. publican

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    Going by our past exchanges on OJ and Zimmerman, I think you would have zero patience with armed black men shooting a cop.
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    AND the TASER was somehow knocked out of his hand and to the ground. Still attached to the suspect as far as I can tell. So I think much more is being made of his gathering it up than may in fact be there and everyone should hold their horses on it until more is known.
     
  3. publican

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    Unlike Brown, the guy in Carolina was not attacking the cop.

    Intelligent rebuttal? Like comparing a man running away with a man running at a cop? That's funny.
     
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    Well I'll agree with you there.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    I can't even recall the last time I discussed OJ and don't recall any with you or about Zimmerman. Perhaps you should not try to second guess what I think.

    But what exactly are you talking about, can you give me an example of a black man lawfully shooting a police officer?
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Hold on there, there WAS a fight. In fact there were on the ground fighting at one point according to the guy who video'd it. Then the TASER is knocked out the officer's hand. THAT could well be interpreted as "attacking the officer"

    Yes as in not the "nah nah your hero" platitudes.
     
  7. publican

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    Sure pal. You just compared a man running at a cop to a man running away from a cop in another discussion we're having.

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    Man was no longer a threat and running away. The slime ball cop executed him because of a fight. Keep applauding murderous cops.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    OK pal, try again

    But what exactly are you talking about, can you give me an example of a black man lawfully shooting a police officer?

    And again, Monday morning quarterbacking is one thing, having to make that split-second decision is another.
     
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    Hard to attack someone when you are running away from them. He was at least 50' from the officer when he was shot, so what was the threat to the officer?
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    But if you get away.....the threat doesn't have to just be for THAT officer, if he gets away some other officer will have to try and take him into custody and the guy is now a threat........and the first shots were fired within 10 ft and he may have gotten about 30 ft before he went down.
     
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    This guy wasn't armed so what threat was he to another officer. Why didn't the officer give chase? He was definitely more than 10' away when the first shots were fired.
     
  12. publican

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    So now your changing your mind about waiting for all the 'facts' of my scenario. You'd make a judgement call like I did.

    LOL!!! 'Split second'? Fat dude lumbering to get up and stumble away as the murdering cop takes his time gabbing his piece and killing him? Is a cop ever wrong in your world when it comes to shooting blacks?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Unarmed does not equal no threat.

    He already did and a fight ensued and then the use of non-lethal force failed to stop the guy. Didn't you read the news.

    By my measurement if the officer is 6' tall then about 15' away. A LONG way from the 50' you claimed.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    I'm not the one who has passed a judgement on it.

    So pal try again this time

    OK pal, try again

    But what exactly are you talking about, can you give me an example of a black man lawfully shooting a police officer?

    Yes or no?

    Yep, your Monday morning quarterbacking notwithstanding.
     
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    Hey pal, initially you said that we should wait for the investigation to wind down when I said it was pretty obvious the cop murdered that man. Then I asked you if you would be as patient if it was a black guy shooting a white cop. You said 'sure'. Then earlier today you asked me what reason could someone have for shooting a cop. I guess you aren't as patient as you told me you were if the shooter is black. Don't get upset at me.

    So what lawful reason was there for the murdering cop to shoot that man in the back as he 'ran'? Justify that shoot QB.
     
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    There was a man who shot Police Officer's in a no-knock raid, he is facing the death penalty but thought he was protecting his family from intruders. You could argue it was lawful, if you were white perhaps you may stand a chance.
     
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    Running away unarmed does.


    So since he may have chased him once and failed the answer was to shoot him in the back, how about the old fashion way and pull your gun and say, "freeze, don't move" and the command "get on the ground".

    40' or 50' I didn't say 50 yards.
     
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    He's a threat to resist arrest. Which does not justify execution.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    Yes you would be advised not to use the word "obvious".

    Sure, and still waiting for your example of a black guy legally killing a police officer acting in the line of duty.


    As I said in THIS particular case, we don't have all the evidence yet to justify whether it was a lawful shooting or outright murder as you are claiming.

    So back to your hypothetical, can you point to any such case in reality?

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    Depends on the resisting that is going on and an execution is a lawful killing, so you are stating it was a lawful killing?
     
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    Maybe maybe not, it the suspect is unarmed running to where he can get armed, that is a threat. So again it depends.

    Add in the fight on the ground, the continued resistance, the TASING and knocking the TASER out of his hand and get back to me.

    Didn't say you did, you said the first shot wasn't fired until the suspect was 50' away, not true, more like 15' away. About the time to cover that distance as it would for the officer to draw his firearm since the TASER did not work to subdue the suspect who was putting up an determined fight to NOT be arrested.

    Why was the suspect making it seem as if he had serious reasons to NOT be arrested especially since he was now a suspect in a car theft at the least.
     
  21. superbadbrutha

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    What did he have a gun stashed in the bushes, as if, he knew the officer was going to pull him over at that location. Talk about reaching.

    Seemed more like a struggle than a fight, because the guy didn't want to get tased. Sorry, but you just can't shoot a man in the back who is no threat to you.


    He was further than 15' away when the first shot was fired. Well he subdued him no question about that, but it may cost him 30yrs in prison.

    That's why we have the police when folks don't want to be arrested, when an unarmed man doesn't want to be arrested and he is no threat to you shooting him in the back 4 times is not the answer.
     
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    So he was ONLY running to the bushes, had to pee or something, what a reach.

    The first struggled happened before a TASER was pulled and just because you don't want to be arrested doesn't grant you the liberty to struggle and because you do and are about to be TASERED doesn't grant you the liberty to flea the arrest. And besides a TASER is only good for one use so he had no further fear of being TASERED.

    Your lame excuses once again do not subsitute for facts just as they did not in the Martin or Brown shootings where you ended up wearing an empty suit.

    A police officer under color of law most certainly can if the situation warrants it.


    So you admit is wasn't the 50' you first claimed.
     
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    Its obvious he was running to not get shot, but we see that didn't work. According to your theory he had guns stashed all over town just in case he got pulled over somewhere.


    Yep and when an UNARMED suspect who is no threat to you takes off running, you don't have the right to get pissed off and shot him in the back either.

    LOL, the only person with the lame ass excuses is you. The guy is on video shooting an unarmed man in the back and the only person trying to defend that is you.


    Obviously not since he was arrested and charged with murder, seems as though the Charleston DA doesn't agree with you.

    I'll let you know when I go and measure it off.
     
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    So much going on that I forgot about this. So is the Officer still in jail or did he bail out?
     
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