State wants answers from Zimmerman

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  1. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Just in

    Prosecutors want an answer from Zimmy on wether or not he intends to claim Stand Your Ground as his defense at the trial ... as you remember he waived his right to the Stand Your Ground hearing ... and this was based partially that O'Mara had floated the possibility of combining the hearing and trial ...

    The prosecution opposes combining the hearing and the trial and wants Zimmerman to appear and answer to it.


    State wants answer from George Zimmerman on 'stand your ground' hearing

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/os-george-zimmerman-immunity-questions-20130424,0,1352305.story


    Prosecutor asks judge to conduct "full inquiry" of Zimmerman.


    The state wants to know for sure whether George Zimmerman plans to claim immunity from prosecution in the shooting of Trayvon Martin — before he goes to trial in the second-degree murder case.

    Prosecutor Bernie de la Rionda's new motion asks Circuit Judge Debra Nelson to conduct a "full inquiry" of Zimmerman and confirm whether he's waiving his right to a hearing under Florida's "stand your ground" law.

    In the case's early stages, defense attorney Mark O'Mara "made efforts to publicly assert that [Zimmerman] would be making a self-defense claim" and would request a hearing, the motion notes.

    However, O'Mara later told Nelson he wouldn't need the two weeks the judge had set aside for a "stand your ground" hearing.
    O'Mara has also floated the possibility of combining the hearing and trial.

    De la Rionda says Zimmerman needs to make up his mind ...
    The state opposes combining the hearing and trial and doesn't want Zimmerman to be able to claim immunity after trial, if he's convicted.

    De la Rionda's filing suggests the motion will be addressed at a hearing next week.
    He asked that Zimmerman attend, likely so the judge could question him.


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    meh, big deal.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More IDIOCY from the most incompetent prosecution team going.

    Since when does the defense have provide details of their strategy to the prosecution?
     
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    I think the outcome of this case is pretty clear. Seriously, what percentage of potential jurors are dumb enough to think that some single, solitary short legged middle-aged Latino somehow chased down a tall teen aged negro football star? And shot him at point blank range?

    That's just ridiculous.

    It's simply unbelievable.
     
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    [video]http://youtube.com/watch?v=o9_j6xBG3Yw[/video]
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    It is absurd when you look at it logically, but progressives are emotional reasoners by nature.

    I would add that GZ called the police on himself before he launched his "perfect crime". :laughing:
     
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    Good point. According to idiots, not only did the short pudgy middle-aged GZ run down the young, tall, and lank athlete, but he also called the police on himself before he did it.

    Anyone with a lick of common sense knows that simply is not what happened. The pigs are trying to railroad Zimmerman.
     
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    1...28 is not "middle aged"
    2...stereotyping Latinos and Blacks
    3...<<>>what does race have to do with it?
    4...Zimmy has gained 100 pounds since the incident
    5...Zimmy is 5'9"...Trayvon WAS 5'11"
    6...Zimmy followed him in a car as well as on foot
    7...read the autopsy report...shot at "mid range"

    .<<<>>>>.
     
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    He actually called to report a suspicious black male, about his age (not 11 years younger). In his 47 pages of calls to police, how many times did he report "suspicious black males"? How many times did he report "suspicious white males"?
     
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    Raul Rodriguez also called the police. He also was attacked.

    Guess what happened to him?

    Zimmerman will face the same fate as Rodriguez, no doubt about it.
     
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    Looks like AC is getting 'cold feet'. "Ya but Ya but".
    When this LIB media driven farce is over AC will be wearing an orange jump suit 'getting married' to her 300 pound Black Bull Dyke cell mate....again.
    And George will be cashing the cheques from MSNBS,the books deal/s and HBO.
    And the last two LIB 'T' fanatics here will be well on their way digging to China. LOLO
     
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    Yeah, and if he had obeyed his Citizen's Watch training and heeded the dispatcher's admonition, we would have never heard of him, which would have been a good thing for everyone.
     
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    Yes, its clearly a maneuver. But my understanding is that "stand your ground" defenses are usually asserted BEFORE trial, which is not the case here.

    If that's the case, O'Mara may be taking a significant legal risk by trying to keep this possibility open. Were I the judge in this case, I would certainly make him declare his intentions. It would be a waste of everyone's time if the defense tried to wait most of the way through a trial before trying this maneuver.
     
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    O'Mara should say that he's still waiting for an answer about the missing TM phone records.
     
  15. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Defendant's Discovery Obligations

    In Williams v. Florida the United States Supreme Court upheld a statute which required defense attorneys to provide notice of an alibi defense upon written demand of the prosecution.
    The defendants had argued that the statute was unconstitutional because it violated the defendant's privilege against self-incrimination and foreclosed a legitimate defense if the defendant failed to comply with the discovery.

    Types of discovery obligations that may exist in a common law system. It is important to note that exact discovery requirements vary from state to state.

    Alibi Notice ~ These provisions require the defendant to provide notice of an alibi defense prior to trial.
    Failure to disclose the defense may lead to the exclusion of witnesses who would testify in support of the alibi.
    If the statute fails to include a reciprocal discovery provision by the prosecution which requires the prosecutor to disclose his rebuttal witnesses, the statute may violate due process.

    Insanity Defense ~- Defense may be required to disclose their intention to use the insanity defense in advance of trial.
    After doing so, the defendant may be required to submit to a psychiatric evaluation.
     
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    But it was part of the master plan. We're dealing with a genius here, according to liberals. He wanted the cops to show up at just the right moment, right after the confrontation AND made sure no one in the neighborhood was watching through their windows or happened to be walking by. He had to get punched first to make sure it was self defense and had to make sure the kid never ran home in the first place. It was a cunning plan to get away with 1st degree murder, or so that's the narrative liberals want you to believe.

    Does it all sound crazy yet or does the reality make a bit more sense?
     
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    Maybe the city of Sanford should ask Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson for guidance. After all, it's their lynchmob.
     
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    He isn't charged with first degree murder, which is one of the many points on which your rant crumbles.
     
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    You pretty much have the narrative perfect. I'll only add that obviously George smashed the back of his head with his gun which caused the lacerations. Anyone with any brains can see the gun's outline on the back of George's head. Second, what actually caused George's broken nose was the "cheap gun" recoiled and broke George's nose. Otherwise you're spot on.
    One more thing many people here haven't picked up on. There are many signs that before George's racist rampage some one had used duct tape to put black plastic on all the windows facing where George finally succeeded in 'offing' the little twelve year old Black 'Obama-chil'. That's why no one could watch the slaughter happen. The mystery remains unsolved as to which Medic removed all the black plastic but it will come out during the trial I'm sure.
     
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    Is a SYG hearing for immunity an alibi defense meant for trial? O'Mara has stated that this a self defense case. It's my understanding that GZ could ask for the SYG hearing after being found not guilty and get the civil immunity.

    So, since this judge has not signaled any sympathy for GZ whatsoever, he could take his excellent chances with a jury, and then the judge would have a hard time denying GZ SYG immunity to a man found not guilty by a jury of his peers.
     
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    He did exactly what the residents of the CRIME-RIDDEN area , of a CRIME RIDDEN city, chose him to do.

    Before you come back with some "dumass"; research it. I have posted the crime FACTS of both Sanford and Twin Lakes, numerous times.

    Twin Lakes is one of the WORST parts of Sanford, which, itself, has a HIGHER CRIME and VIOLENT CRIME RATE than MIAMI.

    Zimmerman did his JOB.

    That did not include being required to tolerate THIS,with no defense:
     
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    It is a PURELY politcally-motivated prosecution. They didn't DARE bring this flimsy POS in front of a GRand Jury....
     
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    Hmmmm maybe the fact that the people commtting crimes werre mostly black has something to do with it.

    Or , was he required to make sure his calls were EQUALLY POLITCALLY CORRECT, not just what was ACTUALLY HAPPENING?

    Duh....
     
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    Since when is mounting the strongest defense, a "waste of everyone's time"?

    Oh wait...that might hinder the RAILROADING...my bad....

    The defense DOES NOT have to outline its strategy to the prosecution; it's the OTHER WAY AROUND.
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    The prosecution is forcing Zimmy to appear and inform the court of his defense ... typically this isn't an issue ... take for instance the same thing is happeneing in James Holmes defense ... who intends to plead insane ... and the prosecution wants all that pertaining to his insanity ... which the defense is fighting.
     
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