Strategy to fight ISIS

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  1. joejoon

    joejoon Newly Registered

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    Since no one seems to have a strategy to fight ISIS, Boko Haram and other terrorist organizations, here is mine.
    1. Spend more money on technology and less on boots walking around waiting to get blown up. More cameras, spying, and surveillance, more internet control, more robotics, more limited movement.
    2. Declare war on the terrorist. This is a long term war and we’ve lost 10 years trying to fight a short war. How much surveillance could we have if we had been planting surveillance devices over the years? I think, not being killed, is more important than being surveilled.
    3. Hire a military leader who will not send the troops out to make friends with the populace and get shot doing it, or get little kids killed while they hand them candy. Hire someone who will send them out to protect and you will win the peoples trust (no more hearts and minds). Hire someone who will not think it’s a good idea to have recruits stand together in a large group so a bomber can kill them all. Hire someone who thinks it’s a good idea to put up defenses to the cities we liberate.
    4. Kill as many terrorist as you can. Once the terrorist learn that every battle they have will be their last, the word will get around to the others and they will eventually become less willing to fight or join in the first place.
    5. Propaganda. This is America – hire the company that convinced us that white bread, Twinkies, and smoking were ok. Let’s get a propaganda machine up and running. Don’t let a French newspaper do our job. Nobody likes ISIS, so it shouldn’t be too hard.
    6. What is wrong with reporting successes? We only hear about how many soldiers’, civilians, and children get killed. We don’t hear about how many terrorist get killed. It looks like the terrorist are always winning. Give the world some hope. Don’t assume that we think the fight is being won.
    7. Bring in other governments. ISIS has attacked almost every country. When we fought WWII, the Allies had an army of more than 35 million people. We’re fighting a terrorist army of about 30 thousand. Let’s put an army together and let them know how big it is. If they have a 1,000 fighters is a town, let’s have 20,000.
    8. The problem is that we are letting each country fight its own battles. Let’s combine the countries and fight together. We need one world leader to take charge. I haven’t seen one, but I hope that person is out there.
     
  2. Daarcand

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    You make some strong points, and some weak ones, but you don't address the question of Should We?
     
  3. APACHERAT

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    This is where Obama got it wrong, he refused to capture high ranking Al Qaeda, Taliban and other jihadist and Islamist fascist to gather intelligence.

    When Obama became POTUS he ordered the military and the CIA not to capture terrorist or Islamist fighters to gather intelligence not wanting to put them in Gitmo. For the first four years of the Obama administration they relied completely on intelligence that was gathered during the Bush administration until it dried up by 2012.


    The intelligence gathered by using enhanced interrogations procedures during the Bush administration of the mastermind of the Al Qaeda attacks on 9-11-01, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed according to Obama's former CIA Director Leon Panetta is what led to finding Bin Laden and he being killed by U.S. Navy SEAL's not by Obama. Obama ordered the Navy SEAL's to stand down three times before Obama put it in Leon Panetta's l;ap who put it in SOCOM Commander Admiral McRaven who gave the order not Obama who was completely out of the loop playing golf.

    By 2011 the intelligence had dried up and unknown to Obama, Al Qaeda wasn't being "decimated and was on the run" but was getting stronger, running all over the Middle East and North Africa and was morphing into other factions. It was all just a lie to get reelected in 2012.

    No war has ever been won without grunts on the ground. Bombers, fighters, navy warships, cruise missiles, Hellfire missiles , UAV's (drones) are for supporting the boots on the ground.

    No wars have ever been won with political correctness or PC Rules of Engagement (ROE) or winning hearts and minds. You want to win a war you fight total war and that means there are no rules. Total war also means the civilian population back at home have to be 100% on board and contributing to the war effort.

    The reason why radical Islam is winning today is because there's an incompetent Commander in Chief in the White House today who doesn't know how to lead and who has thrown American allies under the bus, supported the Arab Spring and has gone as far as arming those who want to kill us. He bad mouths America while defending Islam. Community organizers shouldn't be micromanaging any war or using the military for social engineering.
     
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    Thousands From Russia, Former Soviet States Join ISIS...
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    Putin: 'Thousands' from former Soviet bloc fighting with IS
    October 16, 2015 - Vladimir Putin has said that 5,000 to 7,000 people from Russia and other former Soviet states are fighting for so-called Islamic State (IS) in Syria.
    See also:

    ISIS pays recruiters $10,000 per person, UN says
    Oct 16, 2015: The Islamic State group is paying supporters up to $10,000 for each person that they recruit to wage jihad in Syria and Iraq, UN experts said on Friday after a visit to Belgium, one of the main countries of origin for so-called foreign fighters.
     
  5. Mr_Truth

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    FBI: Fewer Americans Caught Trying to Join ISIS Recently
    Director Suggests This Means ISIS Recruiting 'Faltering'



    http://news.antiwar.com/2015/10/21/fbi-fewer-americans-caught-trying-to-join-isis-recently/


    Speaking to the House Homeland Security Committee, FBI Director James Comey says that the bureau has caught a lot fewer Americans trying to travel abroad to join ISIS in recent months, saying he’s only aware of six leaving in the past three and a half months.

    Comey admitted he wasn’t sure how to explain this, but suggested that the “efforts” made by the FBI to stem recruitment may finally be paying dividends, and went on to suggest ISIS recruitment overall could be “faltering” in the face of FBI opposition.

    Of course, US intelligence on ISIS recruitment has never been particularly reliable, and Americans make up only a very small portion of the recruitment of the group at any rate, meaning the US is a trivially small sample of overall recruitment.

    ISIS has relied heavily on overseas recruiting over the past several years to create its army, and has recruited with unprecedented success in Western nations. The exact size of the group and its makeup is a matter of no small amount of speculation, though Western intelligence agencies have conceded they don’t have great visibility on this matter.







    It will be recalled that ISIS used to recruit heavily here in Minnesota. But the Muslim community and its leadership have fought back against recruiters from the terror organizations and they have succeeded in overcoming the hate filled propaganda of those terror groups.
     

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