US drones are massacring civilians at an alarming rate in Pakistan, says a new study conducted by Stanford and New York Universities. Undoubtedly, this indiscriminate mass murder of civilians by the war criminal Obama will come back to haunt us in the form of blowback. It will also help to swell the ranks of anti-western militant groups by providing an endless source of propaganda for them to draw upon in the coming years. Don't forget, they hate us for our freedom!
"In 1785, Jefferson and John Adams, then the Minister to England, met with Tripoli’s envoy to London to discuss “the ground of the pretensions” of the Barbary States to “make war upon nations who had done them no injury.” As Jefferson reported in a letter to John Jay, Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman informed them: It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was their right and duty to make war on them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman [Muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise." http://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/history/item/4709-bane-of-the-barbary-pirates That's why they hate us. They've hated us before we were even a country.
Well other then the fact that this article that you posted in " CURRENT NEWS" is from 2012, get with the times dude, but it was also already disproven. This article here is from 2013 and it is from the mouth of the Pakistani government themselves. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/world/asia/pakistan-drone-strikes.html As you can see in the article, out of the 2,227 killed by drone stikes, only 67 were actually civilians. That is only a 3% civilan casualty rate which by all standards is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing phenomenal. Which smashes the BS stories folks like you try to throw out like how "10s of thousands of children were killed by drone stikes alone". Soooooo....... What else you got?
Taking one quote from a Berber emissary and extrapolating it to 1.6 billion people is an absurd generalization.
Yes, the news report is old. Will a moderator please move it to the appropriate forum? But, no, the study has not been disproven, that is your error. Nowhere in the article you linked was the Stanford/NYU study even mentioned, let alone disproven.
Right, because this would be the only Muslim in history who ever thought this way. It's too bad all these Muslims keep being so wrong about their own religion. Don't they know that apologists for Islam in the West are the true authorities on how the religion is practiced?
I want talking about your specific Stanford/NYU study. WMO was talking about the idea that drone strikes have killed hundreds or thousands of innocent civilians and the insane notion that only 1 out of ever 50 killed was a jihadist. As MY link clearly states, from the Pakistani government themselves. As of 2013 only 67 civilians out of 2,227 were killed. Now that number is certainly higher after a year. But it can be estimated to be just over 100. This are statistics that you cannot ignore. Wether or not your study was specifically addressed does not change the fact that it has been absolutely disproven. I know that that was your attempt at a spin and that you don't really have an argument but nice try buddy. So if you would kindly answer my previous question. What else you got???
Or maybe every Muslim in history thought exactly as he did, because there is absolutely no room for interpretation when it comes to religion. Which ones? There are no "true authorities" on how a particular religion is practiced. You just like to present the absolute worst elements of Islam as if they were the "true authorities" because it suites your agenda.
It's a simple matter of who you believe is more credible and methodologically rigorous. The puppet regime in Pakistan or a joint initiative led by two of the most prestigious universities in America. I'm sure educated people will come to the right conclusion.
Right because if anyone says anything that takes away your negative spin on the US then it must be some kind of government conspiracy. This was one source. There are plenty more. And yes. People will come to the right conclusion.
bombs almost always kill innocent people when drop, did you not know this? usually many more than 49....
Likewise, if anyone says anything that takes away from your positive spin on the US, then it must be some kind of anti-western conspiracy. But I'm sure people will consider the Pakistani government, who receives billions in foreign aid from the US government each year while working hand in hand with the CIA, a more credible source than a joint initiative between Stanford and NYU. Do you have some kind of point, or are you just here to state the obvious?
It would also be absurd to contend that 1.6 billion Muslims are waging jihad against America and that jihadists aren't inspired by their ideological beliefs. That having been said, the double-tapping is a recipe for killing innocent civilians and it should stop. .
Well seeing as to how it was the Pakistani government that was such an out spoken critic of drone strikes and was condemning them left and right and that was when we were already giving them billions in aid it seems hard to believe that they all of a sudden were bought and so changed their opinion in front of the whole world. And as I said. They aren't the only source. - - - Updated - - - But it isn't.
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...ad-as-obamas-drone-campaign-marks-five-years/. Here's another source from this year that puts the death toll at around 2400. Of which an estimated 270 may have been civilians.
I would contend that if the 49 "innocent" civilians would simply shoot the one terrorist amongst their midst the whole problem would be solved post haste. Of,course that's not what's happening. Anyone care to guess where the illogic in my premise lies?
