Study: More Blacks in St. Louis Killed by Other Blacks Compared to White Officers

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  1. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Here are the facts in St. Louis: there are by far....about 50 to 1......more blacks in St. Louis killed by other blacks compared to being killed by white police officers. Fact: Out of the 1265 murders over a decade-long study, it was found that 90% of the victims were black. And 90% of those victims were killed by other blacks.

    My question is: where is the outrage over the largest problem: the black-on-black murders?

    Also....from the facts below, out of the 31 blacks over that decade who WERE killed by police officers......10 off those were killed by black police officers. So.....none of the facts listed in this study support the mantra from the race-baiters today.....claiming that that there is a white police problem. Evidence, in fact, is contrary to such a claim.


    ST. LOUIS (KMOX) – The shooting death of Michael Brown has unleashed a torrent of pent-up hostility against local police.
    But a University of Missouri – St. Louis researcher says emotions aside, the number of black youth who have been fatally shot by white police officers has been fairly low in recent years.

    Criminology professor David Klinger told KMOX’s Charlie Brennan that he conducted a thorough, decade-long study that showed there were 1,265 murders over that time, with 90 percent of the victims being black. And 90 percent of those black victims were killed by other blacks.

    “While I understand the people are concerned about the use of deadly force by the police, by far – about 50 to 1 – more blacks in St. Louis are killed by other blacks as compared to white police officers,” Klinger says.

    In that same period, Klinger says 31 blacks were killed by police officers – 21 by white police officers.

    “The sad fact is, we had well over a thousand black-on-black homicides in the city of St. Louis during that same decade,” he says."

    http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/10...d-by-other-blacks-compared-to-white-officers/
     
  2. CircleBird

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    Yes, something should be done about black on black crime and white officers killing black people.
     
  3. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Al Sharpton dont want to hear that!!!!!
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Just curious, what was the point of this thread to point out something that has been common knowledge for years, did you just learn these facts, or is there another point?
     
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    I would say the point is that the African American community is protesting the wrong thing. Any excess force from a police officer is wrong and they should be punished if it happens. But the problems facing their community is not the police shooting their young men. The problems they should be protesting is their young men killing one another. Their anger is misplaced and they are spending their resources for the wrong purpose. They cannot see the forest through the trees.
     
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    Don't look for this to get much media coverage. It doesn't get democrats votes. Only by convincing blacks they are victims can democrats keep them as a voting base.
     
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    1) It's weird that the article doesn't mention the journal that the study was published in.
    2) How many of those committing homicide were given 2 weeks of paid leave and then returned to duty?
    3) David Klinger is an ex-cop, has ties to the Cato Institute, and is a senior fellow of the Police Foundation.
     
  8. jackdog

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    numbers are numbers, can you dispute them ? I guess you cannot so instead you just just attack the source. If you can find different statistics other than what was posted please link with a source.
     
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    No explanation of his source.
    No methodology.

    How can you verify something that's not properly presented?
     
  10. jackdog

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    I don't personally post anything that cannot be verified , nor will I dispute anything unless I can verify thet the dispute is correct. You follow your own conscience

    fact is though throughout the US black on black crime is the number one killer of blacks. I can source that. In 2012 there were 2,648 blacks murdered. only 193 were killed by whites, 2412 were killed by blacks,12 by "other" and 31 by unknown. White murders follow the same pattern. What stands out though is that blacks only comprise 13 % of the US population yet committed 49% of the murders in the USA. do the numbers yourself

    http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/uc...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2012.xls

    now if those numbers don't show that the black community does not have a hell of a lot bigger problem than some policeman shooting a thug then enjoy the view of the sand you have your head stuck in
     
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    Well, to be fair, and believe me I understand the black on black problem, they know they have bad people that will prey on good people. However the Cops are supposed to be the good guys.

    Other than that I agree, they have to do something about the black on black attacks.
     
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    Thread moved back to CE events. My apologies to JP5 for moving her thread mistakenly
     
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    I did an independent study on what could be done to prevent blacks from being shot by police. The results: Tell them not to attack folks that are carrying guns.
     
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    Any excess force from a police officer is wrong and they should be punished if it happens.
    I agree 100%.

    But the problems facing their community is not the police shooting their young men. The problems they should be protesting is their young men killing one another.
    There are a number of problems that cannot be placed in one sentence. While I agree is some areas the stigma of crime is not pervasive as it should be, I personally witnessed an Army vet get questioned for good reason. It is not a simple issue.
     
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    Black on black crime doesn't bring ratings and outrage.

    Who's kidding who?
     

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