Suddenly, Iran is aflame with protest

Don't tell Sobo!

 

Sorry, guessing about future events has nothing to do with facts. You have a hard time with opposing opinions.

 

No, you claimed that you wouldn’t care about non-Germans, no matter what. You repeatedly said that you are not capable of caring for anyone but Germans, even on personal level.
After claims like that your personal circle of friends is very questionable. People tend to hang out with people that have similar views. I like to be an optimist and think that most people are better than that, therefore the opinion of the people you are friends with probably reflects a relatively small minority.

 

The Shah wasn't hanging people from cranes in Terhan and wasn't sponsoring terrorism worldwide, he saved Iran from communism.

 

Good. I was gonna post what you did to clear up poor judgment created by tds.

TDS takes away the capacity to grasp reality as you noticed.

I didn't vote for trump and that is good for objectivity. And that is sorely needed with so much mental affection going on.

We are waging economic warfare on Iran hoping suffering will lead to regime change. We play this card oftrn as seen in south America. It is as American as baseball and apple pie.
It killed they say half a million people in Iraq before we invaded. Mostly kids that later on Albreight said was acceptable.

 

The Shah let oppossition torture and murder in Evin prison by SAVAK. Its estimated that during his reign, 89.000 people got murdered by his henchmen.

Beside that, Iran was never under threat to fall to communism.

 

I hope you're not suggesting we should "help" them. Our meddling in their affairs is how the mullahs got into power to begin with.

 

Mmmm... Do you even know who deposed the Sha's father and intalled him on the throne?
It was the USSR and the UK in 1941.

 

What "oppressive religious fanatics" are you talking about?

 

The Ayathollas...

 

That's who they are getting rid of now.

 

They're trying. But those in control of the country are the Ayathollas, not the elected government. The Iranian Guard answer to the Ayathollas, not the gov.

 

No, The Shah was fairly enlightened AT FIRST, but he became increasingly autocratic as time went on, I don't really know how fast that happened but I do know that by the end his SAVAK Secret Police were openly following Gestapo tactics and killing LOTS of people

We overthrew Mossa Degh and installed the Shah because Mossa Degh was going to nationalise the oil cos and put in a regime about as "socialist" as Sweden is now.

 

Iran was not in any danger from Communism... Iran wanted a 50-50 revenue split like everyone else was getting instead of 13%. I was there in 1953. The oil people thought Eisenhower had dumped his gyro.

 

Well, having the communists attempt on your life a couple of time tends to harden ones heart.

 

Mosadeeg wasn't going to nationalize oil .. The US and BP painted him as a communist. Damned stupid blunder. Everybody in the oil business in the ME knew it was a major screw up.

 

We trained the SAVAK..Swartzkoph's father did that... along with Kermit Roosevelt.. .. He was like Trump jr.

 

He was really close to the Tudeh party (communist party of Iran). He was considered a communist trojan horse.

 

Man, you'd be a way better person to exchange with if you read what other are posting and answered with sometghing related to what was posted...

I said the communist attempted on the Sha's life. That we trained the SAVAK, which didn't exist at the time of the attempts on his life has nothing to do with anything that was said.

FOCUS!

 

The Communists didn't make any attempt on the Shah.. He was getting 7 cents on the dollar and the UK wanted things to stay that way.

 

It was a British LIE to justify what they did.

 

Yes they did... Feb. 4th 1949. The Tudeh communist party was declared illegal after that.

 

No they didn't LIE!

He had the support of the communists. Stop thinking he was some sort of angel or Ghandi because he wasn't.

 

He was the leader of the National Front which had members killing ministers also in 1949.

 

Lots of people were, it was the first thing we called anybody who wouldn't knuckle under to one or the other of our industries who wanted to plunder their resources. We refused to help Ho Chi Minh in 1945 because he'd been to one or the other Internationals in Russia, so we went to war with a guy who said one of his models was Abraham Lincoln and then later installed a guy who said the greatest leader ever was Adolf Hitler. America's doctrinaire anti-socialism probably kept the Soviet Union alive for 20 years longer that it should have lived for.