Supreme Court agrees to hear Trump's immunity claim

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  1. signalmankenneth

    signalmankenneth Well-Known Member

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    It's time to expand the supreme court, there is nothing to hear about this case?!! Trump does not have immunity and this is just a delay tactic too?!! The people want to know if we have a guilty or innocent person running for president?!! Sound like those Trump appointed justices are finally paying debt to Trump?!!

    CNN —
    The Supreme Court agreed Wednesday to decide whether Donald Trump may claim immunity in special counsel Jack Smith’s election subversion case, adding another explosive appeal from the former president to its docket and further delaying his federal trial.

    The court agreed to expedite the case and hear arguments the week of April 22.

    The move puts the front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination on track for another high-stakes date with the high court, which earlier this month heard arguments in a separate case questioning whether Trump disqualified himself from running for a second term under the 14th Amendment’s “insurrection ban.”

    Meanwhile, the Supreme Court arguments could come while Trump is on trial in New York on criminal charges of falsifying business records as part of a cover-up to conceal hush money payments before the 2016 election. (Trump has pleaded not guilty.)

    The high court on Wednesday ordered that a lower court ruling against Trump remain on hold until it decides the issue. As is common when granting a case, the court released only a short order and did not indicate how the justices voted.

    A spokesperson for the special counsel’s office declined to comment.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/28/politics/trump-supreme-court-immunity/index.html
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s going to be fascinating either way they rule. On one side they open all prosecution to trump with zero more delays or on the other side they make Biden a king.

    To the right that supports this — what would stop Biden from having seal team six go have a friendly chat with the scotus judges and trump if they rule this way?
     
  3. The Ant

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    They won't rule in favour of immunity...it's nothing more than a delay...which, in effect, may be a form of immunity in terms of a trial before the election...
     
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    Oh dear.

    So you think loading up the SC to dilute the conservative lean is the solution to your conspiracy?

    I have one question for you, let's see if you answer.

    During Obama's presidency, could the DOJ arrest Obama for drone bombing death claiming murder? If not, why? Please expand your answer ad much as possible.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One is a military action taken in the course of combat to protect American interests and troops abroad.

    The other is a single narcissistic fraud wanting to overrule the will of the people.

    I’ll ask again — what would stop Biden from having seal team six go have a friendly chat with the scotus judges and trump if they rule this way?
     
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    Need a strong SC right now to counter the banana republic democrat party.
     
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    I agree after reading more. They have paused the criminal trial and will not be hearing the case until the very end of April.

    Yet another delay tactic.

    Doesn’t stop all the state cases though.
     
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    Wow, you thought this is about a blanket immunity claim?
    No such thing exist
     
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    Its not a blanket immunity. Its more of a free speech case
     
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    Only if he was impeached first right?
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So….immunity. Thanks. Now what’s the 2nd question
     
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    No, Immunity from criminal prosecution for a President’s official acts
    But all you have is out of context claims?

    Its a request for double jeopardy claim based on prior acquittal
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    So where do you see anything about his free speech?
     
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    Let’s see if you can find the key word in your prior post
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    So first it is an immunity claim, then it isn’t — it’s a free speech claim, then it is an immunity claim but also double jeopardy?

    All in this thread alone!

    Beautiful. With such astute legal analysis, no wonder he has lost 99% of all cases against him.

    Do tell though since you have your new legal opinion, is it an official act to try and pressure state governments to find more votes for you? How about colluding to push fraudulent electors while pressuring the VP to refuse to certify an election based on made up fraud claims? Or paying off a hooker with campaign funds so it doesn’t impact your presidential campaign? Or refusing to return classified documents?
     
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    I am just alleging free speech because he is being prosecuted for his communications with the Attorney General, State officials, Deputy Attorney General, and Vice President his request to verify election resources which he has a right and obligation to do. .
     
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    So like most leftist, you love to take information out of context desperately trying to make a point, that never existed.
    Why?
    Because it all the left always has.

    Which is why these same binary thinking leftist will all be losing their 2 cell minds as soon as
    Fani Willis gets kicked to the curb and disqualified for her ignorance
    The SCOTUS slaps down yet another ignorant 14th amendment claim
    When Hunter was charged with 9 felony counts of tax evasion
    Disney bites the dust with your (DeSantis will fail) claims

    So you thought one word in a sentence, defines the entire sentence?
    But as normal, you make a picture pointing to a single word and act like you accomplished something.
    Or even made a point. :roflol:

    And if that wasn't enough, you make this statement?
    How ridiculous that looks when the actual claim is

    Immunity from criminal prosecution for a President’s official acts

    But you thought it meant if ruled in Trumps favor, it means a president could assassinate justices?
    Its why your judicial forecast are wrong so ALWAYS. lol
    How embarrassing for you (again)
     
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    lol yah he’s alleged to have asked for quite a bit more than that
     
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    In @The Mello Guy link I think I see why SCOTUS took this up after initially rejecting it. Let me highlight it here...

    Not only did the DC Circuit deny the immunity claim (no problem with that, its what SCOTUS originally rejected to hear) but issued its ruling in such a way as to expedite the trial being held, something that prevents further processes that the defense may come up with pre-trial. (Like it or not this IS a part of our system and a defendant has every right to use them, even if you disagree with it or hate Trump). But the DC Circuit went further than that and apparently ruled in such a way as to make it to where, to them at least, NO President has ANY immunity what so ever (the part in blue). We all know that such a ruling would lead to the part in red if left unchecked. Such a ruling that the DC Circuit gave is most definitely dangerous and could break what little trust the government has left completely.

    So no @signalmankenneth this has nothing to do with "paying any debt" (of which they have none :rolleyes: )
     
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    Seems pretty clear that Scotus is acting on DFT's behalf. We'll see just how far they'll go to support the failing GOP. That civil war so many of the MAGAs are itchin for might just get scratched after all.
     
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    Can you show me the US Statute that makes an American citizen liable for prosecution of an offence under US Law which they committed in another Country?
     
  23. Kal'Stang

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    Well, its generally decided on a case by case basis (unless otherwise explicitly stated), but yes, a US Citizen can be charged in the US for committing a crime in another country. Here's a couple of links:

    LINK: When Can the U.S. Government Prosecute Someone for Acts Abroad? - Miedel & Mysliwiec LLP (fmamlaw.com)
    LINK: Notice to US citizens: Your actions abroad may have serious consequences | ICE

    Note: I'm just answering your question. In no way am I supporting the idea that Obama could be prosecuted...for anything.
     
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    Read post 20 please. Afterwards, do you still support what you just said here?
     
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    From your Link:

    • Conspiracy charges in which someone living abroad conspired to commit a crime in the United States
    • Attempt charges in which someone overseas attempts to commit a crime in the United States while living abroad
    • Theft of federal property overseas
    • Counterfeiting American money or forging federal documents overseas
    • Killing a foreign national abroad with the intent of facilitating a domestic criminal enterprise
    • Money laundering[/quote]
     

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