Supreme Court deals Biden climate agenda serious blow with EPA decision

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    The Supreme Court dealt a significant blow to the Biden administration’s climate change agenda, ruling Thursday that the Environmental Protection Agency cannot pass sweeping regulations that could overhaul entire industries without additional congressional approval.

    The 6-3 decision limits how far the executive branch can go in forcing new environmental regulations on its own.

    "Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible ‘solution to the crisis of the day,’ But it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme in Section 111(d)," Chief Justice John Roberts said in the Court's opinion, referencing Section 111 of the Clean Air Act. "A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself, or an agency acting pursuant to a clear delegation from that representative body."

    The case stemmed from the Obama administration’s 2015 Clean Power Plan which aimed to reduce carbon emissions at power plants by pushing a shift from coal, to natural gas, and ultimately to wind and solar energy. The plan was put on hold by the Supreme Court in 2016, and then repealed by the Trump administration and replaced by the less extreme Affordable Clean Energy (ACE) Rule. …









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    his is great news for our economy! Now the evil regime can’t run roughshod over domestic energy production and producers in their regulations. They have to enforce what congress actually passed and can’t make crap up on their own. For our economy, this was the most important Supreme Court ruling of all the last two weeks.
     
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    The executive overreach is reigned in yet again! Drill, baby drill!
     
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    I THINK ROLLING STONE MAY BE SLIGHTLY OVERREACTING TO THE SUPREME COURT’S EPA RULING:

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    Authoritarian Leftist "are mighty upset that the Supreme Court just delivered another conservative victory which would curtail the power of the EPA to just create its own regulations out of thin air, without congressional approval."

    A Free People = Elected Lawmakers.

    "SCOTUS rules the EPA can't regulate national emissions and industry, effectively ending its unlimited power trip."

    "As of today, the federal government can't use the FDA to threaten businesses with closure if they don't follow the demands of an unelected bureaucracy."
     
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    In 2016, about 600,000 children died from acute lower respiratory problems caused by polluted air ... your cheering this decision simply
    proves that your pretended interested in a child's health ends at birth. Whatever, dude. Republicans were once interested in the
    quality of air and water, now, they just want to troll Democrats, no matter the negative impact on the health of the children.
     
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    so what you are saying is who gives a flying fazoo about the constitution or proper federal authority if the actions do something you like?
     
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    Yay, they killed your grandchildren. That's something you shoulcheer.

    Not.
     
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    I'm saying that Republicans cheer the pollution of air and water only because it is a way to troll Democrats, without ever giving a thought
    to what polluted air and water means to the children they pretend to protect. It's sick, twisted and really ****ed up. The EPA was created by Republicans back
    when they cared about the environment - no more. Nothing matters to them but opposing environmental concerns just to troll Democrats.
     
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    I don't know about those republicans-I support the tenth amendment and I tire of the "if it feels good" it must be constitutional bullsht
     
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    So you think that polluted air in Nevada does not impact the air in Utah or Colorado and thus should only be regulated by the industry
    concerns of Nevada. Now that's ignorant bullcrap.

    You think that Illinois should be able to dump billions of tons of pollutants into the
    Mississippi cause that's their business, not the business of any states downstream.

    Gods, how ****ed up is that.
     
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    what I think is that the federal government should be restricted to acting in areas where it was properly delegated such powers by the constitution or an amendment
     
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    So you won't admit that the actions of state can impact another negatively, in such a way that American citizens health and safety
    are put at risk, all because the understanding of such cross-state impacts was limited in 1783. So let's kill living children with
    pollution so you can troll the Democrats.
     
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    you seem unable to understand my rather straightforward point; this thread is about what the supreme court did. You seem unable to fathom constitutional law and the fact that the federal government is properly limited to the powers that have been given it by the constitution or amendments. You want the federal government to do everything that the collectivist left wants-even if it has no proper power to so. I am not interested in whether your chicken little nonsense is proper or bad, but rather whether the solutions you want are constitutional. They are not
     
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    The issue is the reason of determining the extent of executive regulatory power in the absence of a congressional mandate to do so. The court has set the record straight. The solution now is for congress to act as per the constitution, not an appeal to emotion
     
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    How about dealing with the solution such as getting congress to act rather than deferring to unelected regulatory regimes? Substituting appeals to emotion instead is the modus operandi of the progressive left
     
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    when you see emotobabble arguments, you realize the author is unable to actually address the issue. The nonsense about killing children seems to be rampant among the authoritarian left-be it environmental issues, vaccination mandates or the usual bs on gun threads (if you don't support banning AR 15s or Semi autos etc, you support children being murdered)
     
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    How about trying to pass the blame? Oh waite, you just did that!

    MAN UP! Own your bullshit.
     
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    So the Libs here are whining that without authoritarian control wielded by the EPA, there is no other way to clean up the environment and since the USA is 100% responsible for every molecule of pollution floating about the planet, we are 100% responsible for every person that dies as a result.

    What a load of pathetic BS.
     
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    The bs as you call it was letting unelected bureaucrats dictate policy from on high to us rather than relying on our elected representatives to set policy and then they enforce set policy. The Supreme Court righted this wrong and that Trumps your faux outrage over your dictator losing power to we the people.
     
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    The EPA is just another Nixon boondoggle.
     
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    Hmm.. so hyperbole is all you're willing to bring here? The citation of dead kids sure wasn't as a result from CO2. Sorry, not playing this substitution BS with you today.
     
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    LOL.. More fascinating hyperventilation. Any idea what would happen if there wasn't CO2 in the atmosphere?
     
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    they really don't care about the environment-they adopt any cause that requires more government control of private property and more erosion of freedom. Any movement that requires more government authoritarianism, the left adopts and makes the means to an end, the real goal. Gun control, animal rights, environmental concerns, etc, are all vehicles the left uses to destroy individual freedom
     
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    Such utter BS. No, conservatives DO NOT cheer for pollution. We are smart enough to recognize that the EPA categorizing CO2 as a "poison" thusly needing regulation was stupid and unnecessary. But I can say should you remove all CO2 from the atmosphere life couldn't happen anymore. And the fact you can't remotely argue the actual science on this, well, it's a wedge. You like using wedges because otherwise your fantasy tech and the ability to entirely control the public and their travel/movements can't be achieved. And that's what this is really about, all of your hyperventilating aside. You, and democrats, want power. And nothing drives your team more nuts than not being able to dictate to the people what they can or cannot do in the manner that you have prescribed for them.

    You know why republicans advanced the EPA to begin with? Because democrats and their corporate lackeys wouldn't clean up after themselves. Just like y'all can't clean up after yourselves when you throw your little get togethers when you protest and march about "saving" the environment. Even time one of the democratic elite buy another mansion on the coast, every time one of your elite jet off on private aviation or one of their floating oil tankers for fun, the rest of the world sees through the BS. So spare us your BS once upon a time lamentation.
     
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    Not enough CO2 is as bad as too much.

    Were you unaware of this?
     

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