"Supreme Court should act on gay marriage"

I know its complicated for you but it is fact. With gays included, marriage ceases to be "limited to men and women". What is the basis for your dispute of this simple fact?

 

You left out the because part.




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Demonstrably false as procreation is not required for marriage. Since its not required, you can't use the inability to procreate as a reason to exclude a couple from marriage.

Which has been pointed out over and over and over, you would be wrong.

Oh look, a very tired strawman.

 

AAAAnd what is it you dispute? That is if you can locate your nads and actually string together a few words to state your argument. Its recorded in dozens of court cases, states clearly stating that this is why their statutes are limited to men and women. These are facts, not claims, not opinions. And you wont find a single one where they claim it was in order to exclude homosexuals. To "disparage and injure" homosexuals.

 

My speculation as to what Araxel has convinced himself of, isnt a strawman. You obviously dont even understand the concept.

 

... and you'll find many folks indicted of a crime claiming they are innocent. It may be a fact they made the claim. That doesn't make what they claimed a fact.




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No, the argument you made up and attributed to him is.

Clearly I do since I have to keep pointing it out.

 

The only absurd argument is that you actually believe that the bans put into place are thousands of years old and that their entire purpose isn't to restrict marriage from gays.

Keep trying.

 

It is predictable that the Supreme Court will rule in favor of gay marriage and they should since it seems the majority of Americans favor gay marriage. Unfortunately, they have failed to rule in favor of the unconstitutionality of the PPACA where the majority of Americans were against that Legislation as it was written, instead, they chose to change the meaning of what Congress intended in order to rule it constitutional. Big mistake. Makes a large majority of Americans question their ability to remain unbiased.

 

No one claimed it was. I'll wait here while you chase after that strawman for the thousandth time.

 

????? The Supreme court is supposed to decide cases on the basis of Constitutional law, NOT on the basis of opinion polls. That's the job of legislatures.

 

There is no point in US history when "bans" on same sex marriage were not in place in all 50 states before 2004, so not sure what "bans" you are referring to.

 

Speculation. And notice he hasn't disputed my speculation.

 

My statement was that

These are facts. Whether their statements were factual is another issue, and Ive never seen any evidence to indicate they are not factual. In the 40s, before gays had ever got the idea they wanted to be married, the Supreme Court of the US recognized that

"Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race."

Procreation that only occurs within a marriage of two people of the opposite sex.

 

I'd agree both are fundamental. I'd disagree that procreation only occurs within a marriage.




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No one claimed procreation only occurs within marriage. I said it only occurs within a marriage of the opposite sex. As opposed to occuring within marriages of the same sex. Ill wait here while you busy yourself chasing down that strawman.

 

Please stop pretending to be stupid. If there is no requirement, you can't use the inability to procreate as an argument against same sex marriage.

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Nope. No state banned same swx marriage until 1971

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Observable fact. You made up an argument nobody was making.

 

Same sex couples procreate all the time.

 

False. The constitutional amendments were not in place before then, and are indeed bans in response to gays seeking marriage.

 

My response would have been:

 

It can occur outside of a marriage of the opposite sex.




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Why do you claim most Americans favor Gay marriage? Where is that stat coming from? ...just asking? ....To me it seems like Liberal judges favor it more then the average American?

 

Most polls over the last year show Americans in support of SSM.

http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm

 

I wouldn't say the majority of Americans "favor" it, but the majority now show through polling that they don't care about whether two gay people marry. That has statistically increased over the last decade. Even in states where gay marriage is allowed those that oppose it......................../GASP Have gotten on with their lives and nothing has changed over it. Maybe you should to.

 

My life has and will not change when it comes to Gay marriage. You should not assume you know me.