Survey; Israel killed 35 Palestinian children in 2016

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, it can be. Muslims conquered, killed and enslaved people across an enormous stretch of territory, but its death counts we're discussing here.

    Like I said, when you've got genocidal Muslims like "The Sword of Islam" massacring over 100,000 people in only one incident and upwards towards 19 million people over the course of his bloody jihads, it's easy to see how Muslims killed more people over a shorter period of time.

    Of course, things could have been exponentially worse if the jihads against Europe and Asia hadn't been halted.
     
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    The Christian / Jewish west beat the Muslims on that enormous territory, by 3 entire continents... where Muslims never even spread over 1 entire continent.
     
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    You cite dozens of UNSC resolutions regarding the Israeli occupation of the WB as proof of the world's refusal to accept it, but cannot cite a SINGLE such resolution regarding the Jordanian occupation of same.
    You declare this "irrelevant" because you know it destroys your position.

    I ask again:
    What UNSC resolution condemned the Jordanian annexation of the WB and demanded the end of Jordanian occupation?
    Please cite the resolution number and the text to that effect.

    According to international law, Jordan ceded part of its territory to Israel in 1994, and Israel agreed to accept that territory
    Unarguably.

    Under international law, the UNSC's authority over the matter ceased upon the ratification of the treaty noted above.

    I see you moved the goalpost, rather than admit you were wrong.
    Unsurprising, that.
     
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    :roflol:
    Wait... you think WW2 had something to do with religion?
    :roflol:

    Sorry -- it's harder and harder to take you seriously.
     
  5. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can understand why you would want to change the subject from killings to territory, but the swath of territory that Muslims conquered from Spain to India easily covered the size of an entire continent.
     
  6. notme

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    I'm just saying that I find it far more plausible that the Christian/Jewish west massacred the most... since they oppressed about the entire world. Where Muslims never did 1 entire continent. And a number of 250 million over 1400 years doesn't impress me at all. Since the West did 60 million in just 5.
     
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    And that is what matters. Since you accept the UNSC are a source,.. well there you go.
    Or are you only accepting the UN/UNSC when it fits your agenda?
     
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    You think the holocaust is a funny business?

    Religion or no religion... the cultural aspect of it all doesnt change a thing that the Christian/Jewish west are the worlds biggest butchers. They still own by far the most weapon factories, own the most WMD's, spend the most on the military. Take a hint.
     
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    If UNSC resolutions are what matters, then you clearly have no argument that Jordan did not annex the WB.

    As Jordan did indeed annex the WB, the WB was part of Jordan in 1967 when Israel invaded Jordan and then occupied Jordanian territory.
    As such, Jordan's cession of the WB to Israel in 1994 is legitimate under international law.
    As Jordan did indeed cede the WB to Israel in 1994, and Israel accepted it, the controversy over occupied Jordanian territory under international law is resolved.
    As the controversy over occupied Jordanian territory was resolved, UNSC resolutions with regard to the WB are no longer relevant.

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    The holocaust was about race, not religion - Nazi ideology saw Jews, etc, as races.

    Incorrect.
    Your claim necessitates that the was was about religion, which we all know it was not.
    As such, your point is self-mooting.
     
  10. Talon

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    I don't see how that is more plausible given that killings and land masses are two entirely different things. If you're conquering established, heavily populated civilizations such as the one in India and you have a jihadist lunatic committing genocide there, the bodies are going to pile up quicker than they would in the sparsely populated rain forests of South America.

    Setting aside the fact that WWII wasn't fought exclusively in the West by Westerners, I don't know how anyone couldn't be impressed and appalled at such an enormous death toll. Muslim armies were killing on an industrial scale long before the Industrial Age, and most of it was done by hand, not machinery.
     
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    Yet, the most bloody conflict on the planet involves Muslims butchering one another in Syria, and Islam is a prominent feature in that conflict.

    Aside from the fact that the West is the richest and most industrialized part of the world, that statement doesn't mean much. A multi-billion dollar jet program that has never seen combat isn't butchering anything except a defense budget. That goes for WMDs that are just sitting around for deterrent's sake.

    Incidentally, who is using WMDs right now? Muslims.

    Your little game isn't going very well for you...
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    There is a huge correlation between land mass, and killings. The Christian/Jewish west enslaved the entire north and southern American continent and Australia. How can the Muslims beat that? By being just in North Africa, the same North Africa that the Christian/Jewish west violently oppressed... with the rest of the continent? Don't think so. Muslims were in South of Europe. Christian/Jewish west had the entire European continent... with their holocaust, spanish inquisition, and orange marches. Mind you, Jews fled to the Ottoman empire to escape the Christian massacres.

    To than rant that the Muslims still managed to kill more, is really not using your head.


    Oh get real. The bulk of the war was thought between Christians. And than after the massacre of 60 million people in just 5 years, nuclear bombing civilians and everything. What did they learn? Both the Christian/Jewish west as the Orthodox Christian east threatened to blow up the entire world with their WMD's. Not just ones, but totally 100's fold over. The freaking insanity of it all... not a muslim thing.
     
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    There is no correlation at all, and I pointed out why in the part of my post that you selectively edited out so you can avoid the issue of population density.

    By killing and enslaving more people in the lands they conquered. It's a dubious distinction, to put it mildly, but that's how. In fact, the Muslims who were responsible for committing genocide reveled in their depravity. They were doing the work of Allah as their little green book instructed them to do.

    And Jews, Christians, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Buddhists and pagans fled Muslim massacres. Did you even know that the Almohad Muslims ran the original Spanish Inquisition? Jewish chroniclers wrote all about it.

    Actually, people are using History to point out that Muslims managed to kill more.

    I am being real - 20% of the casualties in WWII were lost in East Asia and the Pacific. Perhaps, you should familiarize yourself with the Japanese invasion of China some time.

    And to your everlasting dismay, no one blew up the world, much less 100 times over, to confirm your prejudice.

    True - war isn't a good thing, but it is a Muslim thing. Surely, you're familiar with The Verse of the Sword in the Qur'an (IX:5):

    And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush...:blahblah:

    What I find particularly interesting is how the dudes who wrote Qur'an had to fabricate a battle to encourage Muslims to wage war on Christians and Jews (IX:29):

    Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

    Fight, fight, fight. Kill, kill, kill.

    Are you familiar with the Muslim Brotherhood and its motto?

    “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”

    Oh, the freaking insanity of it all...
     
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    Stop guzzling the Kool-Aid. Christians haven't waged war in the name of their faith on any sort of level that Muslims have historically. You have the historic overview. You are deliberately being ignorant.
     
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    Yes they have. The Christian faith has spread around the globe far "better" than the Muslim faith not by accident.
     
  16. moon

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    Just another war for ' Israel's security ' , initiated by Western Zionists . Add it to Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen etc. and pile the dead upon the heads of Israel's defenders- including the thousands of dead Americans who have given their lives for the comfort of Israeli fascism.

    Nobody told them that their widows or orphans would be suffering for the security of a pack of criminal kid-killers.
     
  17. Talon

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    :roflol:

    Yeah, your pals in Caliph Ibrahim's Islamist death cult are fighting for Israel's security, as are their Shiite and Alawite opponents who aren't fighting to preserve their own illegitimate regimes.

    Woo-hoo! :lol:
     
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    Aftermath.
     

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