Teacher Pours Hot Sauce On Autisic Childs Hands As Punishment

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An unidentified elementary school teacher in North Carolina allegedly poured hot sauce on the hands of an 11 year old child in an effort to prevent him from picking his nose in class. The outraged parent is calling for the dismissal of the teacher. So far no word from the school which is investigating the incident.

    http://www.popsugar.com/moms/Teacher-Punishes-Student-Hot-Sauce-36049577

    I think it was very poor judgement of the teacher if in fact the story is true.
     
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    I applaud the outside the box thinking.
     
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    I think we found an exception to your rule:

     
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    Oh, for Christ's sake, just let the kid pick his nose!
     
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    Can't agree w/you on this. The kid is 11 yrs old, already half grown and should have been taught a long time ago that this behavior is disgusting and others shouldn't have to be subjected to it. Part of growing up......
     
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    Depends on how severe his autism is. I've had autistic students continue to engage in disgusting habits well beyond 11 years old. It took them a longer time than most, but they eventually outgrew the habit.

    Teachers aren't really trained to deal with this type of behavior. As a teacher, I ignored it, knowing that I have other coworkers who are trained to help these students develop socially. It's my job to teach them how to read and write, not discipline them for nose-picking.

    Besides, there are some people with such severe autism, that they will never be able to understand that such behavior is socially inappropriate. The article isn't clear on how severe this child's autism is.

    One thing is for sure, using hot sauce should never be an acceptable discipline to prevent nose-picking.
     
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    so I will put you down for a child abuse supporter.
     
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    Oh! Sorry about that - wasn't aware he was autistic and of course, that's a different chapter and in that case, you're right about the teacher using hot sauce as a means of disciplining.......

    Kudos to you for teaching these kids...you sound like a very good one.
     
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    Cool, I like your outside of the box approach.
     
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    yep....

    investigate it fully, if it's true... get them out.


    picking noses is everyday in my austistic class..... so is rubbing scabs on mouths until they become fever blisters..... so are all sorts of other physical ticks that are often annoying, disgusting or dangerous. The problem I have with stories like this is I find it very hard to believe that a teacher would think this was acceptable. Kids all the time make up all sorts of stories and autistic children are perfectly capable of some whoppers, too.


    a simple case of a nose picker getting hotsauce on his fingers at lunch, and then picking it, could easily be told to a parent that "teacher put hotsause on my hands and I got it in my nose...."


    investigate it.... either prove it happened, or let the teacher teach. Hearing about teachers getting run out over the simple allegation is rediculous.
     
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    Oh man a child got hot sauce on his finger?

    Better send the parents to Geneva so they can address the UN over this human rights holocaust.
     
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    Ok, it was poor judgment, but, did it work? If so the parents should thank the teacher for teaching their child a good lesson.
     
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    this....


    I've had severe autistic children that would never comprehend such things..... at 5 yo, he can spell words like xylophone, and read books on 2nd grade levels, but wore pullups, still and would blow his nose into his tongue.....

    Thinking outside the box would be to let him sit in his pee or poop to "train him" but that is completely illegal and no way I would ever do that to the kid.
     
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    Imagine yourself for moment as the parent of this child....spending day after day dealing with the extreme difficulty of an autistic son or daughter that you are charged and responsible for caring for.

    Okay.....now, that you thought about it....are you alright with someone you have trusted with your child doing this?
     
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    Teacher should be fired. And promptly sued!!

    Quality of some teachers has really gone down. :(
     
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    Actually I have been in that situation, not as a parent but as a caregiver.
    I said it was poor judgment, but then again I asked if it worked, has anyone bothered to ask that simple question, with all the outrage that point seems to have been overlooked and it is a valid question. The reality is the child was not harmed and one experience such as that can cure a behavior problem that is seen as unacceptable in civilized society, should have discussed it with the parents first but I doubt the teacher felt they were doing any real harm.
     
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    if the story turns out true.... I seriously doubt it worked. It's as I have said before.... you aren't going to teach the autism out of a kid....



    a story from my class last year, I had a parent that got mad at a para in my class and said that the para was telling the autistic child that he was going to choke him out if he didn't behave.


    The reality was, the kid was a huge prowrestling fan and was trying to do a sleeper hold while playing around and the para told him to stop because it would choke them out.


    but the problem with these kind of accusations is, what if I didn't remember, or hear, the situation that occured? We didn't hear of the accusation for a week after it occurred... That's a long time to try and think back to any number of random 'nothing' situations to see what an autistic kid heard that could concievably be misconstrued by them. if I can't recall a situation that could have been misconstrued, doesn't make my para any less innocent. But in the parent's eyes, especially if they are mad.... aren't happy and have no problem "demanding a teacher be fired for it" when it can't be proven.


    Once upon a time, a long time ago, I was accused of "talking inappropriately to a female student (7th grader)" That sounds horrible, doesn't it. When we got to ethics, it turned out it was said I said the word fart in class. FART. it was worded the way it was on purpose..... but during the course of the investigation, the principal (who's been since fired for targetting....) asked me.... "well, what did you say that could be taken out of context"

    I told him I'm not answering because 1... Fart is not inappropriate.... and 2.... you want me to prove my innocence by speculating about what a 7th grade girl may have misheard over a situation 3 weeks old that I can't even remember.

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    you're assuming guilt
     
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    I don't think the teacher should be doing it....


    I sucked my finger for a long time (10 years old is when I quit, I'm ashamed to say). Either way, hotsauce on the finger was a tactic my parents used. it did not work

    at this point in my career.... all I could do in my gross sitaution of blowing snot into his tongue and swallowing it was try to provide kleenex as quickly as possible. But I wasn't going to be able to cure the autism that caused such behaviors....
     
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    LOLOL........
     
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    I never said it works 100% of the time, I just asked if it did.
     
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    have you been cured of picking your nose.... or do you pick your nose in less public places? you don't cure nose picking.... you (slowly) teach appropriate times and when you can't pick noses.
     
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    noone is cured of picking their nose. it's like when I have a mentally challenged child starting to masturbate..... I don't try to (temporarily) harm him to give him an aversion to masturbating... I get him to stop and work on times that it's not appropriate. I'm never going to break him of masturbating, no matter how much hotsauce I put on his hands
     
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    Never picked mine that is what Kleenex is for. If you say so, are you picking yours now?
     

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