Terrorists fire rockets from Gaza hospital

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  1. Private Citizen

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    Case closed? Far from it... spare you??? From what the shame? or are you shameless?

    Spare us all!!
     
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    lol,

    take a cold drink young activist, you are not supposed to use your whinny powers on every "Zionist" you encounter, save the tears to the rallies when cameras are around.

    I dont know who shot and killed them, could be a soldier, Im saying no way of knowing without proper investigation and that option is out AFTER THEY BURIED THE BODIES,

    what the friends of the dead got say is not enough to judge on serious investigations, perhaps its enough in Islamic countries.
     
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    Your eye witness account doesn't stand up in court, Israel can't be trusted, they harbor mobster's, are convicted of war crimes, spy on every one, assassinate who they please, and have no regard for anyone but themselves.
     
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    Dont forget the ceremonial blood harvest for the Mazta bread in passover and spraeding of plague !
     
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    :roll:
     
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    Never heard that one....
     
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    I totaly agree with you on this one. Gaza being cut off from the rest of the world is kinda akin to the ghetto's Jews were placed in before being shipped off to concentration camps. It's funny how Israeli radicals ooze rhetoric that stinks of Nazi propaganda. I don't care much for other peoples opinions on the Gaza conflict. It's Genocide.
     
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    Nazism and Zionism are the same, the target has changed from orthodox Jews to Muslim's.

    INSTITUTE FOR HISTORICAL REVIEW

    Zionism and the Third Reich

    by Mark Weber

    Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member
    . Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."/1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich....

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
     
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    During World War II as many as 150,000 Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), served in the Germany's armed forces, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals. Among them were Field Marshal Erhard Milch and Helmut Wilberg, one of the fathers of the blitzkrieg method of warfare that helped Hitler conquer most of Europe
     
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    You need to know that a 'rubber' bullet is commonly a steel slug coated in rubber. They can, and do, kill.

    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/rubberplasticbullet.htm
    http://electronicintifada.net/content/misleading-terminology-rubber-bullets/4000
     
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    Of course they have as prior to Palestine becoming a state they were never held accountable as a UN member, heck, Belgium violated more resolutions than the Palestinians did until then.

    A terrorist organization by any definition.

    "ter·ror·ism
    /ˈterəˌrizəm/
    noun
    noun: terrorism

    the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims."

    Hamas does not fight, they hide amongst civilians and fire rockets aimed at Israeli civilians in order to terrorize for the purpose of the civilians being targeted to petition their government to enact political change then they run and hide amongst children's toy boxes or under women's burkas and skirts.
     
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    IOWs no transfer.
     
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    I think they are using legal force against the criminal and militant elements within the occupied areas so you are preaching to the choir.
     
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    Trillions of them are being killed every hour. They only increase their population faster than most western nations through magic.
     
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    Well same save the gas chambers, death trains, half the population systematically exterminated, teeth pulled from bodies etc.
     
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    Bomb the hospital - stop playing games.
     
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    :roflol: So to you somebody that has a distant relative that is Jewish is a 100% Jew huh? A guy with a distant Jewish aunt is supposed to jump onto a death train rather than join the German army as a conscript. There were a heck of a lot more European collaborators than the 150,000 many of whom had no idea they were related to Jewish relatives.

    Golly you crack me up, at least this one is true rather than the usual crap from the IHR Holocaust denial site you frequently quote from!:roflol:

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    I'm all for giving Hamas time to prove their weapons caches are actually a civilian structure but they make it so difficult.
     
  19. Private Citizen

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    The morning roll call will be a particularly morbid affair on the first day of school in Gaza this Sunday. Hundreds of students, killed in the recent fighting, will be forever marked absent.

    Many students are too badly injured or maimed to attend the first day of school. And thousands of students will need to adjust to sharing schools that escaped damage, because their old school now lies in rubble or remains a shelter for displaced families.

    According to the United Nations and Gaza’s Ministry of Education, 228 school buildings were damaged to varying degrees during the latest fighting—143 government schools, 75 schools run by the UN, and 10 private schools – including 26 severely damaged or destroyed.

    Priorities right now include clearing school buildings of any leftover explosive remnants from the fighting, and ensuring that displaced families living inside many dozens of schools find suitable alternative shelter. Textbooks and furniture will also need to be quickly replaced.

    Gaza’s schools were already overstretched before the fighting, with a shortage of almost 200 schools. Around 90 percent of schools will now be running on a double shift, cutting each student’s school hours to just four hours each day. The school year is already starting three weeks late, and students will have weeks of psycho-social counselling and support before they are ready to study the regular curriculum. These students face tough challenges if they are to catch up with their compatriots in the West Bank in time for competitive exams next year.

    Although schools in Israel opened on time, some students there will also require psycho-social support as a priority at the beginning of the year, as a result of fear and anxiety caused by having to run and shelter from Hamas' indiscriminate rocket attacks. In addition, three schools in Israel are reported to have been damaged by rockets launched from Gaza.

    There is, in the words of Pierre Krähenbühl, the top official overseeing UN schools in Gaza, a “crying need” for financial support. But the United States has something perhaps even more indispensable to offer—political pressure on Israel to ease its economic blockade of Gaza.

    Funds for school repair and reconstruction will be meaningless unless Israel lifts its long-standing restrictions on importing construction materials into the territory, subject to monitoring to guard against diversion for military purposes. These restrictions, in place since 2006, go far beyond those needed to guard against the import of weaponry or other military goods, and amount to collective punishment against the civilian population. They undermine children and their right to education by impeding the building, reconstruction, and refurbishment of schools.

    Under the latest ceasefire agreement, Israel has agreed to facilitate the delivery of goods into Gaza. The implementing mechanisms, however, remain to be developed. Hamas has used concrete to build tunnels for attacking Israel, but if the blockade isn’t appropriately eased to allow construction materials destined for humanitarian purposes such as restoring the education sector, many damaged schools will remain too dangerous for use, and destroyed schools will remain rubble.

    It is not yet clear in all cases how the 228 schools were damaged. Deliberate or indiscriminate attacks on schools, unless they are being used for military purposes, are serious violations of the laws of war, which should be impartially investigated and appropriately punished. In a briefing to media, the Israeli military has shown photographs of what it said were rockets fired from school compounds. The UN also reported that unidentified Palestinian armed groups stored weapons in at least three schools, and Israeli forces stayed inside at least one school, using the schools for military purposes and putting them at risk of attack. However, in two cases of Israeli attacks on schools Human Rights Watch investigated–in Beit Hanoun and Jabalya–we found that they did not appear to target a military objective or were otherwise unlawfully indiscriminate.

    The Israeli military said that it has established a “Fact-Finding Assessments Committee” to “examine exceptional incidents” during the latest fighting. Israel, however, has a record of failing to undertake credible investigations into alleged laws-of-war violations by its forces, so there is little reason to expect this latest inquiry to be any different.

    To ensure that a credible investigation is done, the Commission of Inquiry appointed by the UN Human Rights Council should examine the attacks on schools and make recommendations for follow-up by the Security Council. The United States should press Israel to ensure that the UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry has unfettered access throughout the conflict area. The Palestinian government should also request the International Criminal Court to extend its jurisdiction to all of Palestine to end the reign of impunity.

    Children over 6-years-old in Gaza have now lived through three major conflicts and all the suffering that entailed. Donor countries should recognize that ensuring safe schools and good educational opportunities will require more than just financial support. They need to ensure that vital construction materials for schools promptly reach their intended destination, and that those responsible for attacks on schools are held responsible to deter such attacks in the future. Safe schools are one of the best places where children can regain a sense of normalcy and routine to their lives. Gaza’s children need the world’s long-term support.
    http://m.hrw.org/news/2014/09/12/gaza-s-education-rubble
     
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    The Al Mezan Centre for Human Rights has now assessed the destruction caused to Gaza and to it’s 1.6 million people living in an area of land twenty five miles long and between four and seven miles wide (forty one km and six to twelve km respectively.)

    The destruction of near all necessary to maintain civil society is so surgical as to make it impossible not to believe that the stated aim of Israel’s Interior Minister Eli Yishai to “… send Gaza back to the Middle Ages”, Gilad Sharon’s to “Flatten all of Gaza”, or Knesset Member Michael Ben-Ari’s exhorting: “There are no innocents in Gaza, mow them all down”,were not aberrations but reflected Israeli government intentions.

    In the first five days of the Gaza onslaught the Israeli military state that they carried out thirteen hundred and fifty air strikes on the tiny strip already blockaded since electing the Hamas government in 2006. Ironically Gaza had life support collectively removed the same year as Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon was connected to it, where he remains.

    The Al Mezan Centre’s initial findings on death and destruction are chilling and shaming (i) but were out of date just twenty four hours later. In an extensive list, damaged or destroyed schools now stand at fifty two, the deaths at one hundred and sixty eight.

    The Maan News Agency recounts: ‘The Headmistress of the UN-sponsored Al-Bureji girls preparatory school, Hanan Abu Yousif was stunned when she found her school in pieces on Satuday morning. “The school that used to win competitions has been turned to rubble.”

    Exactly what threat the clinics, the schools, the Headquarters of the Palestinian Paralympic Committee, now rubble, posed to Israel’s security is unknown. Just the remains of a wall with a sign proclaiming the latter’s name and its aim: “For The Disabled Sports” are all that is left.(ii)Three youth clubs were also destroyed.

    It is also hard to know what threat the dead pose to the State of Israel.Three cemeteries were also bombed.

    “Children shall be the object of special respect and shall be protected against any form of indecent assault.The Parties to the conflict shall provide them with the care and aid they require, whether because of their age or for any other reason”, states paragraph 1, Article 77 of the Geneva Convention (1977.) What rubbish.

    On November 15th, Nader Basioni (14) sleeping in the same room as his brother, saw nine year old Faris decapitated when metal from an air strike on “a near by field” tore through the family home. “His head was gone except for a piece of skin of his face”, said Nader. “I’m afraid to go to sleep because I see him in my dreams. It’s the same thing over and over – Fares is gone. He’s dead.”

    The Hijazi family too have suffered the unimaginable. In 2008 Mohammed (17) was killed in an Israeli air strike. His parents were gifted with the arrival of another baby who they named Mohammed in his memory. Last week this small pre-school threat to the fourth most powerful military on earth, and his two year old brother Suhaib died in an attack – as did their father Fouad and mother Amna.Trauma continues to engulf a third generation of Gaza’s children, families. (iv.)

    And that famed “pinpoint accuracy” stuff has done well. Media images include a beautiful pigtailed four year old, looking in to the camera with the huge eyes of the innocence of life’s threshold. Then she is in a hospital, unconscious, four great ugly suture lines criss-crossing her right cheek, from mouth to ear to hairline, blackened eyes swollen until it seems they might burst.

    “Pinpointed” seemingly, were two dead boys probably about nine years old, one with his stomach near eviscerated, remnants of his leg placed on his body. The other, his leg made meat, exposed bone, blood drenching his jaunty blue and white, matelot-type sweat shirt.

    Four so, so small children, lay together on a trolley in the morgue , blue jeans, brightly coloured, now bloodied tops were also part of military accuracy, the frozen faces of parents and relatives recording them to memory for the last time -.before they washed them, wrapped them and laid them under the earth.

    And did anyone in authority in the “only democracy in the Middle East” note the image of the father kissing the face of a dead toddler, his arms collecting her to him for a last time, this lost little threat to a neighbouring State – and another peril: the blood soaked child, lying across his father’s lap, the young father’s head buried on his lifeless form.

    A nine year old girl lost the fingers of her right hand, her mother is working to explain that her artistic passion can be achieved as well with her left. Pinpointing doesn’t get more accurate than the fingers of a small right hand.

    Ranan Yousef Arafat, was three, blue eyed, smiling, her green hair-ribbons matching her green top must have had them worried, she was reduced to a form shrivelled, blackened, near unrecognizable – and heart-shreddingly pathetic.

    Seven year old Nisma Kalajar (v) may never talk again. She suffered a head fracture after falling from the third floor family apartment when it was targeted in a drone strike.

    Did the three toddlers, swaddled for burial, their father, his face contorted in his grief, being restrained by relatives as he tried to throw himself on them, somehow retrieve them, really pose a threat to the Israeli State? Or another limp, lifeless mite cradled in the arms of his father, being in turn held tightly by another man to prevent him falling to the ground in grief?

    The images are without end, another father kissing the face of his baby daughter, his arms round his other two lifeless, pre-school age children; Iyad Abu Khawsah, eighteen months, so frail, ethereally slender, lying in the arms of a stricken faced morgue attendant.

    In a hospital corridor a child of perhaps twelve leant against a wall, his face a mask of grief, despair, bewilderment. He clutched his baby brother, forehead swathed in bandages, in his arms. Their parents had been killed in the attack.

    Sitting on a hospital trolley, next to his prone mother was a child about the same age of that bandaged little brother. He had his chubby hand on one side of her face, and his knee wedged against the other side,.Her great eyes looked up at his scratched, smudged face. He sat there shoeless, in black, yellow and brown top and just a diaper, patiently waiting for her to wake up. She never will.

    When eleven members of the Dallou family were annihilated with five children, their home reduced to a large crater, the Israeli army declared it a:

    “mistake in identification of the right home” (vi) a blatant admission that targeting homes is a norm, in yet further defiance of a swathe of international law.

    The direct targeting of civilians is a breach of the laws of armed conflict. “The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited,” states Additional Protocol I of 1977. (vii)

    Israel, naturally, has not ratified Protocol I: “but this provision, prohibiting direct attacks on civilians, is generally recognized as customary law, universally applicable regardless of ratification.” It has to be wondered how a country that also holds the world record for defying UN Resolutions (viii) continues to get away with “prohibited” attacks, massacres, thefts, displacements, and the spreading of terror or threat of it, on a near ongoing basis.

    Further, forgotten it seems, amid the deafening silence of the United Nations and its seemingly now mute Secretary General (even his spineless predecessor Kofi Annan used to respond to illegal annihilations with: “regrettable” or “unfortunate”) are two UN Resolutions:

    General Assembly Resolution 3236 of November 22nd 1974 affirms: “the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine…to self-determination without external interference” and “to national independence and sovereignty.”

    Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State is in Security Council Resolution 1397 of 12th March 2002, which affirms: “a vision of a region where two states, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders.”

    If, as seems near certain, Palestine moves from “Observer entity” to “Non-member observer State” at the UN on 29th November, which: “implies recognition of statehood …” states Vera Jelinek, Dean of New York University’s Center for Global Affairs, regained nationhood of what remants remains of Palestine’s un- stolen land edges closer.

    Will Israel accept this with grace, or will it return to Gaza to inflict a “final solution” on a people also enduring, as Iraq before it, a near Middle Age siege?

    As Al Mezan points out in their Report:“The failure of international community to make timely, effective interventions to protect civilians and condemn violations of international law; including the failure of the Security Council to issue a statement (on the Gaza attack) illustrates that international community continues to apply (double) political standards on human rights and international law issues; an attitude that could allow for violations of international law to recur in the future.” (Emphasis mine.)

    Incidentally, it is an ironic coincidence that the onslaught on Gaza began on the anniversary of German forces murdering nine thousand Jewish people in Slonim, Belarus on 14th November 1941, in “Operation Barbarosa.”

    In India 14th November was Universal Children’s Day, which is celebrated there on the birthday of Jawahalal Nehuru, the country’s first Prime Minister much influenced by his friend Mahatma Gandi, who said: “When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it – always

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-crimes-against-humanity-targeting-palestinian-children-with-pinpoint-accuracy/5313293
     
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    Another false statement by Maggot 2
     
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    I would say that sums up Israel in a nut shell.
     
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    Ohhh :no:

    Please allow us to bomb them like they bomb us....PLEASE!!!

    Your approval means so much for us :tears:


    They had a chance to make peace in the 90's and they (literaly) blew it.
     
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    :roflol: do you want some cheese with that wine?
     

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