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  1. Maquiscat

    Maquiscat Well-Known Member

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    Dude, you're clueless about me. Personally I find both the Democratic and Republican parties messed up. I belong to neither.

    Show me where being a Christian requires you to compel others by force of law to follow Christ's teachings. Just one commandments of Jesus will do. Again, not how you should act, but the forcing of how others should act. Quite frankly, the forcing of other would be the anti-christians action, not the allowing of them to do otherwise.
     
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    You make no sense. I showed you that a Christian can't be an anti-Christian democrat that loves killing babies and supports the immoral lifestyle of Gays
     
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    No you didn't. You have shown nothing objective to support your claim. You have only shown your subjective interpretation of scripture.
     
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    I have you are just to partisan to see it. You show you know nothing about Christianity.
     
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    Again, pot kettle. Your ignorance of Christianity is shown by the lack of ability to provide objective criteria, not subjective criteria. Again, I ask you to show me where the Christ told us to force others, by means of law, to follow Christian teachings.
     
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    I have shown it it is you that ignores the doctrines of the Bible and Christianity. You show you are an atheist speaking out of your ignorance and you lack of morals
     
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    Hardly an atheist. Unless you are going to classify all people who do not believe as you do as atheists. Every religion says that all other religions are wrong. Every denominations says that the other denominations are at least doing something wrong, if not outright got it all wrong. All say that the other don't truly understand or ignore the Bible and Christianity. Your claims mean nothing.

    I ask you again. Show me where the Christ told us to force other, by power of law, to follow Christian teachings. I look forward to your next dodge.
     
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    I did show it you refuse to accept it
     
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    1 Corinthians has no words of the Christ. Also that was your supposed attempt on how Democrats cannot be Christians. I simplified it down more for you. Where does Jesus tell us to use the force of law to compel others to follow his rules?
     
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    So if it was not said by Jesus it is not the word of God. As always you show your ignorance. We are talking about Christian doctrine not Jesus. To vote for democrats you vote against the teachings of the Bible. The democrats hate Christians and often use the lie of separation of church and state to attack Christians
     
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    Again, you have not proven that Democrats cannot be Christians. You are espousing your opinion on what a Christian should be and falling directly under the No True Scotsman fallacy. Jesus, the direct line of God, made a point of not forcing people to follow his word and the word of God. Therefore, if you feel that the law should force people to follow the word of God, then you are in direct violation of the will of God.
     
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    I have proven it. Christians do not vote for killing babies or gay marriage or men in women's bathrooms. Christians do not vote for the immoral corrupt liars that make up the democrat party
     
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    That is an opinion on what a given verse says. You have nothing objective to support your opinion as fact.
     
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    You show you do not understand doctrine and what the Bible says

    https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/2-14.htm
     
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    Such is your opinion and interpretation of scripture. Ironically enough I hold the same opinion of you based upon my interpretation of scripture. The only difference is that I am actually intelligent enough to recognize that it is opinion and interpenetration and that there is no objective proof in either direction. You have yet to come up with an objective reason why Democrats cannot be Christians.
     
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    Hare Krishna!
     
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    nothing in the bible, particularly the new testament, says anything about abortion, compelling others to conform to Christianity through force of law, or even so much as mention homosexuals.
     
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    So you did not read the link. You show you do not understand the Spiritual aspect of the Bible
     
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    Indeed I did and already showed you why you do not understand it and think it means something other than what it means. Scroll back and deal with what you were already told.
     
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    All you are doing is showing you do not understand Christians or the Bible
     
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    Says insecure Christians everywhere about those who don't agree with their interpretations. You still have not provided any OBJECTIVE criteria as to why Democrats can't be Christians. Your interpretations of verses are just that, interpretations. As a Christian, I would say that it is you who does not understand Christians or the Bible.
     
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    I have shown it you refuse to acknowledge it
     
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    As I have you.
     
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    You have done nothing but deny what I have shown you. You show you know nothing about Christians or what they believe
     
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    And you have denied all that I have shown you. You know nothing of Christians and what we believe, in all the myriad forms.
     

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