That statue in England that ended up in the bay?

why does anybody go on about white slavers? maybe you should ask yourself why this happens. when you do decide to ask yourself maybe you will see that this unique type of slavery was the most heinous type EVER invented. you should really think about it since idont want to be the one to explain, you need to find out for yourself. if you cant then iwill be willing to help you.

 

So how was American slavery different to African, Chinese or Arab slavery?

 

It was the British who created the formal categorisation of race with language and records which they did for commercial reasons.

 

You hear this "There's no such thing as race" from the liberal Left.
It reminds me of one I heard growing up, and left me badly confused,
"There's no such thing as cannibals."
They were wrong there - cannibalism was something Europeans stopped.
You will never hear that, will you? Just as Europe stopped the Arab and
African slave trades.
And as for "race" - if I was shown an Ethiopian, Chinese, European and
Pygmy I could probably figure out which "race" was what, so could you.

 

Yet we were the people who not only banned slavery before anyone else but actively suppressed it for the rest of the world.

 

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After moving around 3 million people as slaves for commercial gain. The legacy of that blood money is still with us. Those who ask frankly stupid questions about how far do we go back are comfortable in their cosy shires developed in the UK from the financial wellspring of slavery...and racism.
Institutionalised by the British.
Only this week there has been a well publicised racist incident, yes racist incident, involving flying a plane with a banner over the Etihad stadium.
This 'we' you speak of does not include me. My accident of birth was to be a white male born in Kent, and I am ashamed of the country of my birth, and if I had the power to do so I would institute some kind of reparation scheme as an unsatisfactory apology and a start to repair the evil of my forefathers.
Of course the rich and comfortable white British wouldn't want that...they return the evil Tories after all, but to refer to your post I quoted it is a bit like saying 'I am beating the bejaysus out of you, but aren't I great because I've stopped now?'

 

You are avoiding my point which is the British formalised the stratification of races, just as later the Victorians formalised the laws and rules of many sports.

 

And the British "formalized" the laws of physics. It doesn't mean anything.
The Greeks and Romans had this term "barbarian" and it meant someone
with a strange language who sounded like "ba bar." And of course, they
were primitive. No formalities - barbarians made good slaves, or you could
chop their arms off so they wouldn't make good warriors.
It is "racist", who cares, that's a 20th Century politicized term that would have
made no sense to people back then.

 

The British did not formalise the laws of physics.
To label anybody as primitive is a debate in itself. The word is actually a subjective application, not an objective reality.
Dropping a nuclear bomb on a city could be argued to be a highly primitive act.

 

white jewish europeans and white christian europeans practiced a race based chattel system. africans and arabs didnt. africans would capture pows, they didnt have prisons so the pows or criminals would be punished by working off the debt. also, babies werent born into slavery in africa. the arabs enslaved whites and blacks so it was not race based. i dont know anything about slavery in china so please feel free to share how it compared to the practices of the white slavers.

 

so we are to thank white jewish europeans and white christian europeans for stopping the evil practice they invented?

thats like being grateful to jeffrey dahmer because he stopped eating ppl

 

There's an anti-Semitic smell to this, which is the world's oldest known form of racism.
If Jews are "white" then so too are Arabs - they are both Semites.
Ever read anything or seen the movie on the maneating lions of Tsavo in Kenya? These
lions essentially had a taste for human flesh from those Africans discarded by Arab
slave traders.
Slavery is all the same - it's about power over other people. You can enslave your own
race, but it's easier to enslave someone else.
Saying it wasn't racist because Arabs enslaved black and white is odd. Can we keep
Arabs and Africans as slaves and claim we aren't "racist"?
A lot of this "anti slavery" stuff is just racism disguised as anti-racism. In psychology its
called Projection or Transference.

 

Most of the physics up until the 20th Century was formalized by the British - the
most important part of which was Newton's physics and Darwin's biology. Doesn't
mean much - but it's a fact.
Having had some of my own family die in the Pacific fighting the Japanese, and
learning all about the bloody island hopping that took the lives of hundreds of
thousands of allied soldiers, I am glad that America dropped the bomb. It did only
2% of all the damage done to Japan, but alongside the Russian attacks it did the
trick and ended the war. I doubt only two million casualties were expected - every
man, woman and child was to be a soldier when the Americans arrived.
The atom bomb wasn't primitive, and the act of using it saved many lives. Taking
Berlin by "conventional arms" cost two million lives.

 

So Blaise Pascal was British?
My father fought the Japanese in Burma.
Oppenheimer was appalled by the nuclear weapon he helped create, most definitely employed by primitive morons who inadvertently or deliberately set in motion the Cold War whose casualties are immeasurable.

 

slavery is not all the same smh. theres a rather racist smell to the argument ppl make that the trans atlantic slave so called trade was like any other form of servitude.

no other ppl practiced a race based chattel system in history apart from white jewish europeans and white christian europeans. arabs didnt practice a race based system, they enslaved ppl who werent muslims. if you converted to islam you were freed. this is religion based slavery, totally different to the more evil race based slavery that the whites practiced in the americas.

 

Europeans didn't invent slavery, it began in Africa and persists there to this day.

 

Oppenheimer was appalled by the H-bomb, not the a-bomb. The Cold War didn't start in 1945 but 1917.

 

Only in Africa it was instead of a prison sentence as they did not have prisons so the person would need to go away and be a slave usually for around a year. Then they could come home. Their children were never forced to become slaves as of course the US relied on.

 

Really? Got a link?

 

I am quoting an African in one of the programs on British Slavery which I watched this week. Try watching them on Youtube/

 

So here is a link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/abolition/africa_article_01.shtml

 

Mongols had slaves. Genghis Khan was one himself - later he had his own slaves.
Julius Caesar was a slave at one time. Later he had his own slaves.
All slaves are chattel. Some women think they are chattel.
Slavery is universal.
If Arabs didn't practice a race based system then why did they go to Africa and
Europe to seize those people?
Do Jews become "white" when they are in Europe? What color are they in the
Middle East?

 

white jewish europeans and white christian europeans invented the Race Based Chattel System.

 

maybe but the point is that WJE's and WCE's invented a race based chattel system and it is these very practitioners whose statues we in the west are opposed to. that is what this discussion is about, if you want to discuss slavery in china why not make a topic instead of trying to deflect from this topics discussion because you dont like the information coming out.

what has jews got to do with anything, you are the only one talking about jews.

 

You claim that the West invented chattel based slavery.
When I point out how nearly every other culture had
chattel slaves you say I am deflecting. In a sense, I am.
People who point out the evils of Western society (the
one they want to live in BTW) feel you are deflecting if
you point out worse evils in other systems (ie the caste
system and bride burning in India.)
The world's best system is the white liberal democracy.
How do I know? By the flow of immigrants.