And tell me exactly how I am doing that. People do that to me all the time. On another thread someone said I go to abortion mills and scream and yell using vulgar and abusive language at women. How would they know this is the truth? It is against the rules here to attack a person is it not. If I attack something I try to attack the position...which is very hard to do when you represent a side that is being attacked by 99% of people in a forum and they seem to be allowed in getting away with it.
If 99% of the people in a fourm are attacking(disagreeing with) you does that tell you anything??? Think REALLY hard.... 99 is a big number...it's bigger than 1...
And many don't.....and so WHAT! Who is promised that they will never make a mistake in their lives or never regret something they did????? Quit assuming ALL women are mentally deficit whiners who haven't the brains or the maturity to get over something in their past...
I never implied what you said, but it is a fact that many women regret their abortions at some time in their lives. Many don't, or just do not admit otherwise.
Look back a your responses - any post that started with "you pro-aborts..........." Ignoring the fact that very very very few of us are "pro-abortion". The vast majority of us are "pro-choice" or even just "anti-legislation" but virtually no-one WANTS abortion, At best it is an evil necessity What pro-lifers and pro-choicers actually agree on is that abortion ideally should be reduced as far as possible. Pro-choicers generally would like to see that done through better contraception and while many pro-lifers do agree with this there are those who reject it and demand that there is no reproductive choice and that the only time a woman should have sex is with a long time partner who is committed to supporting her and will raise the child The fact that no society anywhere in the world has made that last edict work does not seem to bother them - but then for this extreme group of "pro-lifers" it seems to be less about abortion than feeling "superior" to "sluts having sex" - - - Updated - - - Look back a your responses - any post that started with "you pro-aborts..........." Ignoring the fact that very very very few of us are "pro-abortion". The vast majority of us are "pro-choice" or even just "anti-legislation" but virtually no-one WANTS abortion, At best it is an evil necessity What pro-lifers and pro-choicers actually agree on is that abortion ideally should be reduced as far as possible. Pro-choicers generally would like to see that done through better contraception and while many pro-lifers do agree with this there are those who reject it and demand that there is no reproductive choice and that the only time a woman should have sex is with a long time partner who is committed to supporting her and will raise the child The fact that no society anywhere in the world has made that last edict work does not seem to bother them - but then for this extreme group of "pro-lifers" it seems to be less about abortion than feeling "superior" to "sluts having sex"
Define "many" ...use statistics. And, again, so what if someone regrets something they did ...EVERY human has something they regret..you canNOT change that.
So if 99% of the people on this forum thought rape should be legal...no laws....would you stand up for what you think was right...or cave in? The majority of the country thought slavery was ok....was it? yes or no Should the people who fought to end it....should they have just shut up and done nothing? How many pro-life people do we have here debating? Give me the ratio...pro-death camp vs pro-life camp. - - - Updated - - - Ever change your mind about what you did...or a position you once held? Or should you be tied to one view your entire life...and never be allowed to change? You pro-aborts always say.......the majority of Americans are pro-choice. Where are your stats?
Not necessarily. Maybe the inmate assaulted a pregnant woman and was sentenced for murder because the fetus died. woman convicted of murdering a fetus: http://www.noozhawk.com/article/101812_police_convicted_murderers_wife_tried_kill_witness_fetus/ Man sentenced to 9 months prison for killing bald eagle: http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Disturbing Truths/eagle.htm Tell me, does a bird have more "sentience" than a human fetus?
"""Ever change your mind about what you did...or a position you once held? Or should you be tied to one view your entire life...and never be allowed to change?"""" DUHHHHHHHHHHH, we weren't talking about changing your mind we were talking about regrets...get a bloody dictionary! And it STILL ISN'T ALL ABOUT YOU!
Maybe we should just terminate the life of the woman. There can't be any regrets if she's not alive, can there? Just like the fetus will never be able to regret their abortion. That's right. Abortion is not just all about the woman.
Bowerbird said, That is not bashing anyone is it? You do want abortion legal don't you? Do you want any protection for the unborn? NO. So if abortion is not bad, why do you care so much about being called pro-abortion? Pro-choice is pro-abortion...for the very reasons I gave. You just don't like the label. Is there something wrong with abortion? If there is why do you defend it? If there is nothing wrong...then why do hate the label? It is not a necessity...well it is in your mind obviously by your worldview. I don't agree....I believe abortion should be illegal...so that all unborns are saved. Reduced is not good enough. Our laws should protect the unborn. What is your idea of being extreme? I could care less if a woman sleep around. But if they become pregnant, killing should not be an option. I am not talking about the immorality of premarital sex. I am talking about killing a living person..to solve a problem. And your point? You want killing to be legal. You are certainly not pro-life. Is there something wrong with abortion? In your mind what does being pro-abortion mean?
Golly, You Anti-Freedom folks sure do like forcing people you do not know to do what you want them to. The Pro-Slavery crowd seems bent on ruining the lives of as many people as possible, so the equivillant of a heavy sneeze (as far as human life) can have the rights they remove from the mother, That's not Bashing anyone.....is it?
Churchmouse: """""I believe abortion should be illegal...so that all unborns are saved. """" OK, so now pleases explain how making abortion illegal ends abortions so that "all" unborns are saved.... you can't do it. You can't name a time in history when there hasn't been abortions. And you'll have to change nature and/or biology becasue some abortions are natural....how do you plan to do that...wave a magic wand? A poster here thinks "god" aborts some fetuses...maybe you should have a chat with him....or it...
I can give an easily explanation for that, If I am pro religious freedom (choice) can I also hold the view of not being pro-religion? Can you hold the position of being Pro gun rights while personally being against their use? Pro-abortion as a term is similar to such, it implies being for abortions when this is not always the case. You can hold a position of being personally against having an abortion but would support someone's right to do so, for this scenario it's sort of like hate speech you can think people are wrong but are legally allowed to voice their views even if you personally are against it. You could be supportive of a woman's right to choose but would like to see a decline in abortions for a number of reason like not wanting someone have to make a difficult choice, not want someone to have to go through a surgical procedure or maybe it's because it would be simpler that the choice never have to present itself. some of the reasons could similarly be compared to adoption cons as many people wouldn't want to have to choose it as an option but would be supportive of other people choosing to do so. It really isn't that hard a concept to understand so I hope this goes into detail about your question.
Do you actually read anything you link to - your "headline" - "woman convicted of murdering a fetus" The actual story from your provided link - "A 27-year-old Santa Maria woman is facing charges of attempting to murder a fetus after she allegedly attacked a woman who testified against her husband in a murder trial." So she has not been "convicted" of anything as yet. Nothing to do with sentience in this case, the eagle is an endangered species .. not so for a fetus. Yet another shot in the dark by you Anders.
Churchmouse: """""I believe abortion should be illegal...so that all unborns are saved. """" OK, so now pleases explain how making abortion illegal ends abortions so that "all" unborns are saved.... you can't do it. You can't name a time in history when there hasn't been abortions. And you'll have to change nature and/or biology becasue some abortions are natural....how do you plan to do that...wave a magic wand? A poster here thinks "god" aborts some fetuses...maybe you should have a chat with him....or it... ANY of you Anti-Choicers, you Anti-Freedom folks! Step right up and answer those awkward questions! What's the matter? All of a sudden you're shy about posting ????
YUP! When they can't whine and moan , scream like idiots about murder, and make hateful statements about women but have to actually FACE FACTS they seem to shut up and whither away....
Skeptical Heretic said, But if the religion you endorse thinks that killing for a solution is ok...then you would be pro-killing. I am not against gun usage...especially to protect myself of family or anyone else who is being attacked. If you are pro-choice abortion...do you or do you not want laws to protect the unborn? The fact is you don't want laws that will protect. In fact your content to sit back and do nothing. Killing is the pro-choice solution...and you stand by it. You want that killing option open...even if you would not use it. The unborn lives don't matter to you...and that is not being pro-life. You don't like the label because of everything it implies....I wouldn't either. Decline is nice...but not enough, not the solution. Because lives still would be killed. The fact you want abortion legal means you know that women can kill and the face that you want choice...means people will die. Would you be content to live with a law that said.......slavery is legal, but you don't agree with it, if others want to do it it's ok? Or how about....all drugs should be legal and selling drugs in school zones is also ok? Kids will do drugs anyway...and if they want to buy and use them its ok...even in a school zone. Your kids might not do it...but the option should be there for others if they want to do it. No its not. Abortion laws do not protect the unborn. You don't want those laws in place. You are not pro-life, you are pro-choice...and your choice is on the side of death...not life.
Honey..I am not going anywhere...actually been down to the courts watching the Jodi Arias trial. I do have a life outside computer....obviously you don't. LOL
