The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    This is where you destroy your credibility. Anyone who actually watches the footage can see that the movement is one hundred percent consistent with buoyancy (see post #522).

    What does one do with someone who continuously insists that a picture of a chicken is really a picture of a pig? All I can do I suppose is make sure he doesn't succeed in burying that part of the thread by reposting it from time to time.

    I've alreadyaddressed your question about the rotating flag. Follow the links.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=45&p=1062831714#post1062831714
     
  2. Betamax101

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    You don't get to speak for others.

    But let's put that to the test, any lurkers/regular posters/viewers. Do you think Scott/Cosmored is correct and that the cable is not acting on shape memory in a vacuum, but is in fact a buoyant cable in a water tank.

    Meh! The audacity of this person whose behaviour epitomises that analogy.

    Fixed that for you.

    I alluded to your pathetic claim in my post. You claim it was slowed down. It makes no difference, the viscosity of water billows the fabric whatever the speed. You're busted, and always were. The claim about wave blowers you made was the most laughable of them all.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=21&p=4595720#post4595720
     
  3. Scott

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    I urge all viewers who don't have time to watch the videos that show the Chinese spacewalk was faked not to be swayed by rhetoric and withhold judgement until you have time to watch them.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=45&p=1062831714#post1062831714

    BetaMax knows that the people who actually watch the footage know he's full-of-it. All he can do now is try to sway those who don't watch the videos with rhetoric.
     
  4. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Banned

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    We've already covered this. You don't get to state what I know or what other people will conclude.

    Hot air. Only the very delusional of conspiraloons think the spacewalk was hoaxed. For the viewers, Scott/Cosmored the serial forum spammer, claims that a piece of ice/debris is a bubble. Nothing said or shown to him changes his mind. This video(the third one I have made on the subject!) would make an objective truth seeker re-evaluate their position:-

    [video=youtube;pCfzhoeHABQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfzhoeHABQ[/video]
     
  5. rahl

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    I watched the footage. The spacewalk was not faked. You're an idiot
     
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  6. Scott

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    You're trying to mislead those viewers who don't have the time to watch it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=45&p=1062831714#post1062831714

    All I can do is ask the viewers who don't have time to watch it to withhold judgement until they've actually watched it and not be swayed by rhetoric. Anyone with an IQ of ninety or over can see the Chinese spacewalk was faked. The pro-Apollo posters here who say it was real have no credibility.
     
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    I watched it. It wasn't faked. You're an idiot
     
  8. Betamax101

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    What a crock!! One of the viewers actually watches the video. He concludes that you it wasn't faked and that you are full of it. He is correct on both accounts.

    You are one of the most deluded people I have ever come across. Nothing you write demonstrates that you have the necessary IQ. You have no credentials or expertise that enable you to judge credibility in others, particularly when you base it on this moronic claim of yours.

    Meh. The video was actually made by a pro-Apollo supporter.
     
  9. Scott

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    That guy is a member of your obfuscation team. He he made an empty rhetorical statement instead of analyzing the anomalies.

    Once people see the footage of the buoyant safety cables, there's really nothing you can do to make them think it was real. I posted it in post #522 on the last page.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=53

    You responded in post #524 without analyzing the movement because it's simply too clear to obfuscate.

    I addressed this in post #516. Here's the link to it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=52&p=1063090194#post1063090194

    In your obfuscation video in post #529 you didn't show the whole path of the bubble in order to mislead the people watching the video. It can be seen here at the 1:55 time mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA&hl=es&gl=ES


    The summary of hoax proof on page #1 has a lot of dead links and I can't edit the post so here's a link to an updated summary.
    spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
     
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    My obfuscation team, what a pathetic fool you are.

    The motion of the flag is impossible in a viscous medium. Impossible at any speed or condition.

    Claiming he was got at when he had previously never even mentioned Apollo and carries no weight with the internet is so obviously moronic.

    My first video showed this perfectly - your response was to maintain it was a bubble.

    [video=youtube;64gvtOKw32o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64gvtOKw32o[/video]

    Stupidity persists. I cannot believe anybody can think that is a bubble, you are just a troll with nothing better to do. I pity you.
     
  11. Scott

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    I see you're avoiding the buoyant safety cable issue because it's too clear to obfuscate. The viewers can see it in post #522.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=53&p=1063090288#post1063090288

    You have no answer for the fact that the cables only move when the movement is one hundred percent consistent with the buoyancy scenario. If shape memory were the explanation, there would be movement that wasn't consistent with the bouyancy scenario. This closes the whole case by itself and your trying to obfuscate it destroys your credibility as an Apollo analyst.

    Here's the footage he's referring to.
    Anyone who watches it can see that it can be explained by varying the speed of the footage as it's played back. That fast movement that would be impossible in water would be possible at a lower speed in water.

    No it isn't. It's a very plausible scenario. Here's the link to the info again so that it doesn't get buried.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=52&p=1063090194#post1063090194

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA&hl=es&gl=ES
    (1:55 time mark)

    If it were a piece of solid debris in a vacuum in zero-G, it would not change direction. Watch how it hugs the visor when it goes upward. Then goes straight up the way a bubble would. Anyone can see this. This is simply too clear to obfuscate. You can't save this with rhetoric; it's all simply too clear. You have no credibility.
     
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    No liar, it's called shape memory. There are also vacuum forces and IR effects on the cable casing.

    Moronic circular reasoning. Nothing about the cable is consistent with buoyancy.

    The rotating flat piece space debris/ice and the flag being spun around closes the case.

    You are so painfully clueless! A flat piece of fabric cannot spin unrestricted in a viscous medium. It is totally impossible at any speed.

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    A flat piece of debris/ice that changes direction. What kind of bubble changes direction?

    A special bubble that grows in size way beyond the pressure change expected in such a short distance. How can a bubble possibly expand so much?

    The visual evidence shows a flat object that is rotating. What kind of bubble is flat and rotates?

    What kind of spamming troll looks at that footage and sees a bubble?

    [video=youtube;-M1LRSF62cc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1LRSF62cc[/video]
     
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    watched the video. no anomalies present. it wasn't faked. you're an idiot
     
  14. frenat

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    A predictable answer from a predictable troll.

    [MENTION=47629]rahl[/MENTION]: the rest of us believe you watched it and are entitled to your own opinion. The bot known as Scott/Cosmored/DavidC/Rocky etc. is incapable of believing that you could have a different opinion than him. You must be paid to do so because his opinion is infallible. :roll: Welcome to the real world where not everybody thinks the same.
     
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    Prove it. Film a flag waving slowly in water and speed it up. Post it on youtube. You either really don't know how fabrics behave in water or you're a lying troll/bot. I know where my money is.
     
  16. Scott

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    I can almost hear the viewers laughing at you.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=45&p=1062831714#post1062831714

    As I've said before, you might as well insist that a picture of a chicken is really a picture of a pig. You're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4
     
  17. Betamax101

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    I'm wondering whether this is some major cognitive dissonance you have, with a sprinkling of DK syndrome. The viewers of this thread will notice that you have avoided the questions(as always!):-

    Regarding the small flag being spun around:- You are so painfully clueless! A flat piece of fabric cannot spin unrestricted in a viscous medium. It is totally impossible at any speed.

    A flat piece of debris/ice that changes direction. What kind of bubble changes direction?

    A special bubble that grows in size way beyond the pressure change expected in such a short distance. How can a bubble possibly expand so much?

    The visual evidence shows a flat object that is rotating. What kind of bubble is flat and rotates?

    What kind of spamming troll looks at that footage and sees a bubble?

    [video=youtube;-M1LRSF62cc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1LRSF62cc[/video]


    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/
     
  18. Scott

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    You're trying to divert attention away from the buoyant cable issue because you know that nobody's falling for your attempt to obfuscate it so I suppose I have to keep posting it to thwart you. Here's the link to it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=53&p=1063090288#post1063090288

    You're being deliberately obtuse about the bubble that changes direction.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA&hl=es&gl=ES
    (1:55 time mark)

    It hugs the visor as it tries to go straight up. The visor keeps it from going straight up. A piece of debris in a vacuum in zero-G would not hug the visor. It would go in a straight line. The bubble which you are saying is a piece of debris does not go in a straight line. It does what a bubble does. It tries to go straight up. When it clears the visor, it changes direction and starts to go straight up.

    This is so clear that none of the viewers need to have it explained. I'm just laying it all out so that you'll have to look silly trying to obfuscate it.
     
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    Regarding the small flag being spun around:- You are so painfully clueless! A flat piece of fabric cannot spin unrestricted in a viscous medium. It is totally impossible at any speed.

    A flat piece of debris/ice that changes direction. What kind of bubble changes direction?

    A special bubble that grows in size way beyond the pressure change expected in such a short distance. How can a bubble possibly expand so much?

    The visual evidence shows a flat object that is rotating. What kind of bubble is flat and rotates?

    What kind of spamming troll looks at that footage and sees a bubble?

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    The flat rotating piece of space debris/ice, that more than trebles in size, and accelerates.

    There are only 3 frames to determine this, it most certainly doesn't hug anything. It simply rises just in front of it.

    What utter nonsense, the rotating flat object is in front of the visor for 2 of the 3 frames we see it.

    A strawman built from stupidity. Ice, for example, in a vacuum can change speed and direction very easily. A bubble not so much!!

    The appeal to the always invisible viewers who never support you. It's not a bubble you fool:-

    [video=youtube;pCfzhoeHABQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCfzhoeHABQ[/video]

    Watch the troll avoid the questions.
     
  20. frenat

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    What viewers? This person IS one and he doesn't agree with your narrow minded rigged objectivity test. The only person being laughed at is YOU.
     
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    What are you on about? The cable keeps moving in the last direction in which it was shoved until it runs out of running space or is pushed in a different direction. You have no bleeding clue what you are talking about.

    It does not look buoyant to me. It has to be propelled to move at all.
    But the flag is the key. It behaves exactly as does any piece of fabric in a vacuum.

    Go try to sell your story among people who have no knowledge of science.
     
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    Watched Rocketmen on Netflix. Brought back a lot of memories. My uncle developed negatives for NASA and when I was a kid I had pictures from space. Wish I still had them.

    To believe the OP, one would have to believe that the 400,000 people that worked for NASA at the time were in on a conspiracy.
     
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    It would have been possible by compartmentalizing the project. Read this.

    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/27709
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
     
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    No it would not be possible by compartmentalization.

    Even the Manhattan project was compromised despite the utmost secrecy.

    By the time someone tried to fake the moon landing thousands would have had to keep that secret and known it was a fraud.

    The soviets would have known and had every motive to expose such a secret and no motive to keep it. Thousands of amateur astronomers and ham radio buffs would have known.

    Not to mention the researchers who routinely measure the difference between Earth and the Moon using lasers and a mirror which was left their by Apollo 11. Impossible to do without the moon landing
     
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    If compartmentalized then those building the equipment would have built equipment capable of getting to the Moon and back. So why not use it?
     
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