The Authoritarians Can Stuff It: New SoCal school board bans CRT on day one

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  1. dairyair

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    Correct.
    Its as if, one teaches about the civil war and mentions skin color, that's CRT. And they get all scared or something.
     
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    In primary schools it is history. CRT is not in primary school education.
    As shown by every single poster who tried to make that claim and provided links that proved them wrong.
    It's a college level elective course.

    But many think if schools talk about history and skin color gets mentioned, they think it's CRT. They've been led to believe wrong by their sources of information.
     
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    What?
    No. You've never posted a legit argument. At least not to me.
    Your links to me were all college level links.
     
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    Stop being bad faith. It doesn't make you look good.

    I've posted several links, a few videos and an entire website that is actively collecting data of all the race based bullshit being brought to our school systems that needs to be purged out.

    Pick one, and explain to me why that specific news story isn't cause for concern. Considering you've already declared non of what I have posted as cause for concern, I am not asking you to back that claim up.
     
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    Yes you did.
    To colleges or professors of college. Those were the type links you provided to my posts.
    Stop being bad faith. It doesn't make you look good.

    If you posted real CRT links to primary education teaching, repost them or give the post #. It's not that difficult.

    Collecting data is not a CRT program. Are you now claiming that research and data collecting is CRT? Come on, you can do better.
     
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    Look at this link you gave to me.
    Notice how it says there's no CRT in ND?

    I've been telling you this. Your own links have proven you wrong
     
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    You clearly didn't read any of the links. There was an entire section from JK to 12. Pick one.
     
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    Was that all you had? Their are 49 other states in America btw...surely you didn't need me to teach you that?

    Like for example
    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/...ion-official-denounces-meritocracy-as-racist/
    Here is the State of California. (note as to be different from the State of North Dakota...lol)

    "Most cities have such gifted programs or institutions, though we have discussed calls for the elimination of all gifted and talented programs in cities like New York. Lowell had a majority of white and Asian students and only two percent of its student body were African-Americans. Collins and other board members want to abolish the merit-based selection in favor of a blind lottery system."

    That would be an example of race based bullshit that is under the umbrella of CRT tennants that you could have talked about. But for some reason, you focused in on a State that chose to protect itself from this nonsense.

    But to your point...North Dakota is voting to PROTECT it's school systems from eventually adopting these policies. North Dakota is also not representative of all of America. If I am head of a state and I see several states joining this trend of adopting racist bullshit under the umbrella of CRT into their corriculums...so as a reaction, I pass laws to protect my state's eductation system from adopting those policies. You are not proving that CRT isn't a problem. You are only proving that it isn't a problem in a state that has opted to protect itself from the problem.

    LOL.
     
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    LOL, is that all I HAD?
    It was your very own link, proving your case WRONG.

    What more do I need. Your claim is CRT is an issue in primary schools. You make it, you prove it.
    Instead of proving me correct all the time.

    And if you actually read what I post to you instead of ranting, you'd see that I also said to you, go ahead and put in laws on CRT for a NON ISSUE in primary education.
     
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    I just did. I mean, for some stupid reason, you used North Dakota...a State that has opted to protect itself by passing laws preventing this ****...as declaration that ALL OF AMERICA is just fine. For some stupid reason, I have had to explain to you that North Dakota is only one of 49 other states.

    And then I just dug up one of the first links in the section (K-12) and copied it into that post to prove to you that some of the other states where this CRT **** has spread too, have discussed passing some racist and regressive policies.

    So I'll post it again here. The State of California (which is different to the State of North Dakota btw) is discussing the removal of merit-based systems because not enough black people are making the grade. Thus lowering the standards and teaching children they can just lottery their way through life without having to earn their spot through work or effort.
    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/...ion-official-denounces-meritocracy-as-racist/
    "Most cities have such gifted programs or institutions, though we have discussed calls for the elimination of all gifted and talented programs in cities like New York. Lowell had a majority of white and Asian students and only two percent of its student body were African-Americans. Collins and other board members want to abolish the merit-based selection in favor of a blind lottery system."

    So ya...wanna deal with the reality that North Dakota doesn't encompass all of the United States now?

    LOL.
     
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    For some stupid reason I USED North Dakota?
    LOL, that was your stupid link to prove CRT is active in primary education.

    Maybe you need to define your version of CRT. Because it's not the actual defined version of CRT.
    You're arguing a made up definition it seems.
     
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    Hmm. So, which aspect of present-day "racism" do you refer to? All American citizens have been made fully EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW, ever since the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

    How much of today's perceived "systemic racism" is merely creative imagination, and a by-product of being 'butt-hurt' because the United States didn't just start giving Blacks everything they wanted, whether or not they had any actual reason to think they deserved 'special treatment'....
     
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    You really like going in circles, don't ya?

    Ok so now your asking me to redefine what CRT is as you are now confronted with the reality that CRT is not in every state, that some (like North Dakota) have opted to pass laws to protect themselves from this bullshit.

    I say redefine, because I've already explained to you several times what we are referring to with regards to our use of the term "CRT". You just seem to have the memory of a goldfish.

    Here let me help you.
    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/critical-race-theory
    "a conceptual framework that considers the impact of historical laws and social structures on the present-day perpetuation of racial inequality: first used in legal analyses, and now applied in education, communication studies, and sociology. Abbreviation: CRT"

    lol.

    CRT isn't JUST the law course taught at the University level in this regard. CRT is a theory after all. What we are referring to when we say "CRT" is any ridiculous -race based- policiy that is being adopted and practiced within our school systems. As those policies have direct relationship to the theories taught within that CRT course you are looking for. Making them downstream or under the CRT umbrella.

    North Dakota pre emptively put a stop to that nonsense, and rightfully so. But North Dakota is only 1 State. And as such you cannot declare "there is no problem" because a few States (including Florida) are actively battling against this CRT **** from hitting their school systems.

    Now...did you wanna try and explain to me how removing a merit based system isn't harmful or impactful to the learning or work ethic of students? Causing jealousy and resentment as some kids just get "gifted" into programs other kids worked their asses off for the same opportunity? This promotes lazy work eithic, racial resentment. Anger, division, regression. Oh...and a lowering of standards.

    But you will have representation. Unearned representation...but representation.
     
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    There's still a lot of inequality. Black kids are more likely to be tried as adults than whites who commit similar crimes, black people tend to get harsher sentences for similar crimes, etc. That "two tiered system" that the right likes to complain about? Well, there are numbers showing that it exists, but with regards to race rather than political alignment. These are probably more college level topics, but it's a thing.
     
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    Sorry bro, racism is still alive and well, and the impacts of historic racism are still meaningful.

    I'm not going to explain it to you though, because i couldn't care less what you think.
     
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    OK, you're convinced that "racism is still alive and well", but you decline to give any specifics at all because you "couldn't care less" what I think. Good! We understand each other! I care about FACTS, and actual reality as it has pertained to citizens of the United States since 1965... but, sadly, you do not -- and, moreover -- you won't even discuss it. :nerd:

    At a 'forty-thousand-foot-level', I blame this on an American public 'school' system which has been dumbing-down emerging American generations for almost the past forty years!

    [​IMG]. "Racists! Racists! Everywhere -- RACISTS" :spin:
     
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    Saying racists are no where, is no better than saying they are everywhere.
     
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    With the way some are now running for the hills, clearly we have won the messaging war.

    As for these leftist racist scum that you claim do not exist: ELIMINATIONIST RHETORIC: ‘Whiteness is going to have an end date’ says Rutgers professor of gender and Africana studies.

    [​IMG]

    'Video of a critical race theory scholar overpaid racist leftwing nitwit 'claiming that "white people are committed to being villains" and warning that "whiteness is going to have an end date."

    Folk have rightfully had enough of this racist divisive crap from some of the left.
     
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    I didn’t check the context to verify your claim, because it doesn’t matter. The whole left isn’t defined by a few nuts, and what you imply is not the typical or even common rhetoric of classrooms
     
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    Fake News. I never claimed that the entire Left was defined by these racist extremist nutjobs. I highly suspect that most of the Left finds these haters as disgusting as I do.
     
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    okay, then what was the point? I guess the crux is what counts as crt. It already wasn’t being taught in grade school, except possibly by a few nuts.
     
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    Fake News. All that these sensible Free Legislatures are banning are the racist concepts of CRT, they aren't banning the term. And the point was that your claim that I broadbrushed the Left was false, it's not what I said and it's not my belief. I firmly believe that the sensible Left finds these racist divisive grifter haters as disturbing as I do.
     
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    sigh.. the thread is about schools banning crt. This suggest somebody thinks it’s a significant problem from the left. If it were a few nuts, could discipline/correct them individually. So what is it that they, or you, actually think crt says? And how is it such a problem in schools?
     
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    None of these people will define CRT.
    Because each of them has defined it for themselves, based on the information they've seen on tv.

    But nothing ever given in this thread is related at all to the real CRT.
    That's why these states are making laws about CRT. A political football. They make laws to ban CRT and it doesn't even exist in the State that bans them.
    And North Dakota proves it. @ToughTalk even proved it with his link at least 2X in this thread alone.
     
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    Can you actually describe what was being taught before (with sources) that is now banned?
     
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