The backout begins: AGW not real.

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  1. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In what I will describe as the attempt by NASA to give the "Climate Science Community" a graceful way out, They have come out with a study saying that cloud heights are dropping. Yes kiddies they are saying that the sky is falling.....
    This is being touted as a way that temps might not rise more since cloud heights would allow heat to escape.
    I think it's more like the way to allow some professors and politicians escape real scrutiny......

    http://www.livescience.com/18604-cloud-heights-declining.html


    I want citations from leftist mensches of previous cloud height studies that these people are supposedly comparing data to. I've never heard a word about anybody studying cloud heights on a global basis.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And possible jailtime for fraud.
     
  3. jhffmn

    jhffmn New Member

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    I want to see people go to jail for this one.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    By aiding the UN and attempting to tax the industrial nations, these scientists have been involved in the greatest swindle attempt in human history.


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  5. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    It really was an incredible scam. It's dying a hard death, though.
     
  6. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want people to go to jail because of cloud height?

    Doesn't that seem a bit extreme?
     
  7. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    No. We want fraudsters like Michael Mann to face jail time for purposely misleading world governments by manipulating the data.
     
  8. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, even if that were the case, that is not a crime.

    What country do you folks live in where you fantasize about sending those who disagree with you to jail?
     
  9. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    It's not a crime to intentionally mislead the government? You want to bet?
     
  10. theunbubba

    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fraud is not a different opinion. It's theft.
     
  11. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Right, intentionally mislead the government. I am certain that is exactly what happened as the simians gained flight out of my posterior.
     
  12. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, thanks. What did Mann steal then? The last shred of dignity from fools?
     
  13. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    You said purposely misleading the government is not a crime. It is a crime.

    http://library.findlaw.com/2004/May/11/147945.html
     
  14. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    So you admit it's a crime to lie to the government.
     
  16. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To investigators? Sure. I'll bite. Whatever. You bet.
     
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    kenrichaed Banned

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    Al Gore got rich of this myth and the democrats wanted him to be President.

    This goes to show why dems should never occupy the White House with their lies and crooked ways.

    Can you imagine Gore and John Edwards leading our nation? And people think Bush had no values...My God!
     
  18. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    So when you claimed that it was not illegal to purposely mislead the government, that was just BS. Correct?
     
  19. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The government in toto? No, I was right in that.
     
  20. Ethereal

    Ethereal Well-Known Member

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    Nope. You're wrong in that, too. Try reading the article I posted.

    Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001 makes it a crime to: 1) knowingly and willfully; 2) make any materially false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or representation; 3) in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative or judicial branch of the United States. Your lie does not even have to be made directly to an employee of the national government as long as it is "within the jurisdiction" of the ever expanding federal bureaucracy.

    http://library.findlaw.com/2004/May/11/147945.html


    It's a crime to purposely mislead the government, period.
     
  21. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you are right, you are right.

    So what is the criminal statute on that?
     
  22. jhffmn

    jhffmn New Member

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    If not jail, perhaps we can sue for damages. We can sue everyone who ever published anything on AGW for all the money wasted on green energy and what not.
     
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    I'm satisfied by the fact it blew up in their faces. They have to live with egg on their faces.
     
  24. skeptic-f

    skeptic-f New Member

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    I've got heaps of recent abnormal global weather and endangered species (polar bears, anyone?) that says different. Ask the insurance industry if they have dismissed AGW.
     
  25. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    Ha-Ha!

    It seems as if the global "alarmists" are becoming very desperate! It was a good thing these people decided instead to use the words "climate change".

    Now these scientists can request lots and lots of Federal grant money to study and talk about global cooling as well as global warming!

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