The Canadian postal worker and Israel

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Jazz, Mar 22, 2013.

  1. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Fredericton postal worker’s trip to Palestine smeared by Conservative MP

    Conservative MP Mark Adler accused Fredericton postal worker Ruth Breen and her union, the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW), of using public funds to pay for her trip to the occupied West Bank.

    Adler said, “Mr. Speaker, constituents from my riding have brought to my attention the latest propagandist newsletter issued by the radical Canadian Union of Postal Workers to its members. This radical political pamphlet outlines Fredericton local member Ruth Breen’s trip to Israel using public funds, while at the same time accusing Canada of committing war crimes through its support for Israel.”

    Adler then asked the Minister responsible for Canada Post, Steven Fletcher, to respond. Minister Fletcher’s response:

    “Mr. Speaker, what the member has raised is awful. Using public funds for radical political trips is wrong. CUPW should apologize for this misuse of public funds and its anti-Israeli rhetoric. Will the Leader of the Opposition continue to support his big union bosses and their radical political views, or will he stand with taxpayers and demand an apology for the misuse of these public funds and to the state of Israel?” The Leader of the Opposition did not respond.

    According to Breen, Adler is ill-informed. “I traveled to the West Bank on Atlantic Regional I International Solidarity Funds. I did not travel to the West Bank with public funds as Adler is alleging,” says Breen.

    Breen says she is perplexed by Adler’s strong reaction to the use of “war crime” to describe Israel’s actions. She points to information found on federal government websites that support her assertion that Israel is committing war crimes.

    Canada does not recognize permanent Israeli control over territories occupied in 1967 (the Golan Heights, the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip).
    The Fourth Geneva Convention applies in the occupied territories and establishes Israel’s obligations as an occupying power, in particular with respect to the humane treatment of the inhabitants of the occupied territories. As referred to in UN Security Council Resolutions 446 and 465, Israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention.
    The settlements also constitute a serious obstacle to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace.

    ….

    Canada opposes Israel’s construction of the barrier inside the West Bank and East Jerusalem which are occupied territories.
    This construction is contrary to international law under the Fourth Geneva Convention.
    Canada not only opposes Israel’s construction of a barrier extending into the occupied territories, but also expropriations and the demolition of houses and economic infrastructure carried out for this purpose.

    Adler’s attack comes at a time when the Conservatives are attempting to pass Bill C-377 (an amendment to the Income Tax Act) through Senate.

    The Bill attempts to destroy the ability of unions to do political activity.
    Union leaders say that Bill C-377 is partly about countering political work that is unpopular with the Harper Conservative agenda;
    this includes Palestine solidarity work.

    The Harper government has declared that there is no better friend to Israel than Canada.
    Canada was the first country in the world, before Israel, to cut aid to the Palestinian Authority following the election of the Hamas party in January 2006.
    Harper has referred to the illegal settlement blocks in the occupied territories as “democratic realities.”
    The Canadian government dropped Israel and the U.S. from a list of countries suspected of using torture in 2008.

    “What I saw, heard, and felt in Occupied Palestine was not the narrative we hear Stephen Harper parroting — that Israel is only exercising its right to defend itself. I saw home demolitions, water denied, settlements encroaching on Palestinian land, displacement of peaceful farmers and a wall that in no way can be considered anything other than a prison wall, forcing an entire nation of people to exist in an open sky prison,” says Breen.

    Cabinet Ministers have come out on swinging on the side of Israel in early March. Jason Kenney, Minister of Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism, issued a statement against the ninth annual Israeli Apartheid Week. John Baird, Minister of Foreign Affairs, speaking at the annual conference of the most powerful pro-Israel lobby group in the U.S., the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, threatened to cut aid to the Palestinian Authority, if it took Israel to International Criminal Court over building settlements on the occupied lands.

    Days after MP Adler attacked Breen and the postal workers for their November trip to the West Bank with the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, he tweeted on March 8th that he had “great time at the CJPAC action party in Toronto.” CJPAC is the Canadian Jewish Political Affairs Committee.

    Established in late 2005, just ahead of the federal election that brought Harper to power in January 2006, CJPAC is a lobby group that aims to strengthen Canada-Israel’s relationship and boasts having relationships with all three political parties in Canada. The Harper government, Liberal Opposition in 2008 and NDP Opposition in 2012 did not condemn Israel’s offensives on Gaza that killed 1,400 in 2008 and 170 in 2012.

    http://halifax.mediacoop.ca/story/fredericton-postal-worker’s-trip-palestine-smeared/16779
    -------------------

    There you have it: Canada sides with a Terror Nation!
    I find the Conservatists are much like the Republicans south of the border.
    Our Harper is a little Bush who also likes to play war ... in Libya recently. And I'm sure he'll participate in Syria too and in time against Iran as well. To be a friend of Israel is not beneficial. The Jews only drag other nations into war for them. Nothing good comes ever out of an association with Israel.

    I am a peaceful person and I want my country to stay at least neutral.
     
  2. pimptight

    pimptight Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Messages:
    5,513
    Likes Received:
    23
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Excuse me?

    Once those workers give their labor for that money, it is no longer tax payer money!

    That is what their union dues are paid by, their wages.

    What a piece of propaganda!!
     
  3. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Thanks for making me aware of that. I have never been in a union. You are so right! What is this Adler Minister raising such a fuss for? Someone should tell him! Harper should! Ditto Fletcher, the Postal Minister, who knows nothing either.

    They just stopped short of calling the postal worker Ruth Breen an Anti-Semite.
     
  4. gabriel1

    gabriel1 New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2012
    Messages:
    3,789
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Canada gets the politicians they deserve. harper did very well in Ontario in the last election.
     
  5. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    We only have Harper, because we had and have nothing competent in the liberal bunch. Jack Layton from the NDP stood a good chance of beating Harper next time, but, alas, he departed prematurely.
     
  6. gabriel1

    gabriel1 New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2012
    Messages:
    3,789
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    you figure harper is competent?? the country was well aware that he went to Washington and denounced Canada for refusing to go to Iraq!
     
  7. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I wasn't aware of that! Chretien was the last good PM in my opinion. He had a spine and guts to stand up against the Americans, although they make us suffer for it. We neeed our neighbor for trading with us.

    I'm not a political buff, but I have read things like this: "... Stephen Harper is a bully, a political thug, and a dangerous maniac, I sometimes forget to mention the obvious - he is also an incompetent idiot."

    Harper is a bit like a sly fox and a butt kisser where he thinks it enhances his ego and image.
     
  8. gabriel1

    gabriel1 New Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2012
    Messages:
    3,789
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    0
    he's an American toady. btw ignatief also said we shud go to Iraq!!
     
  9. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Are you a Canadian?
    Ignatief? He came after Chretien. I didn't particularly like him. There must have been lots of others who didn't like him. Bob Ray is not competent either.
    What do you think of Justin Trudeau? Lots of people rave around him.
     
  10. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    19,096
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Obviously no one has read C-377. The following is patently false:
    The union's real concern is that the bill forces complete financial transparency, including the salaries of union executives (ouch!).

    The entire bill as it currently stands can be viewed here
     
  11. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Oh, hi, Doug!:smile: You are still around? How's the hockey club going?

    I admit I haven't read C-377. My focus was rather on the criticism for traveling to Palestine.
     
  12. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    19,096
    Likes Received:
    1,827
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I am around. As for Palestine why is the union using member's dues to get involved in political issues in another country?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I am around. As for Palestine why is the union using member's dues to get involved in political issues in another country?
     
  13. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2008
    Messages:
    7,114
    Likes Received:
    1,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    I wouldn't know. But once they have paid their income taxes according to bill 377 from the members' dues, AND disclosed everything, they should be free to visit where they want to privately.
     

Share This Page