The case for Russia collusion against the Democrats

Other than you pathetic personal insults which only prove your ineptitude at coherant thought the fact thst Stone clued Trump into the Wiki leaks in advance of their occurance is proof positive of collusion between Trump and the Russians. An honest candidate would hve notified our security agencies of the Russian election interference. Instead our elected moron embraced and used the Russian interference.

 

Sorry hut this doesn't prove anything about how the Cohen testimony was a major blow to the case for collusion. The fact that you have to rely on words from a meaninless artice proves the inadequacy of your arguement. But if that is all you have it is no wonder you have to keep misunderstanding the article. Oh and the "pillar" was Prague not Cohen's testimony and Prague has yet to be disproved. Anyone with even a limited intelligence should be able to figure out that Cohen's inability to confirm doesn't prove it didn't happen.

" Yes, it does. It uses the word "core" to describe it. It uses the phrase "major evidence". It calls it "important". It refers to it as the "crown jewel". Anything described as such is a pillar to investigation. I'm sorry kid this pisses you off so badly. Your ilk took a major beatdown and you are having a tough time dealing with it. Chump."

 

Good lord, I swear your posts get dumber by the day. Absolutely the special counsel throws out "allegations". That's what an indictment IS, my low IQ left wing mental midget. This is it's definition: "a formal charge or accusation of a serious crime." An accusation is a synonym of allegation. Tell me that you are just really desperate to try to alter your position because you know it's a lost cause and you really aren't this dumb. Please. *chuckles*

Like we said, there is no ACCUSATION, ALLEGATION, or INDICTMENT against Trump, his family, or his campaign for illegal activity with regards to Russia in the 2016 election. None. Zero. Not even a suggestion.....other than the mental ill left wing tools that keep imagining it.....just like they do with Big Foot.

And what is this "anti-racketeering" nonsense? Another dumb thing to say. This isn't an investigation into a "racketeering" scheme and it's "bosses". It's an investigation into Trump-Russia conspiracy to change the outcome of the 2016 election. Something that does not exist nor ever existed. There is no boss. There is no scheme. There are no "lower levels". There are no higher levels. There is nothing. That's why there are no indictments, charges, allegations, or accusations in this realm (yeah, apparently we have to use all the synonyms because you are too dumb....lol).

Manafort's investigation is over. He is now being sentenced for financial crimes from years ago. There is no charge for his work for the Trump campaign or any interactions with any Russian during the campaign.

Flynn's investigation is over. His plea for making a false statement to an agent has been entered. The only thing left is the sentencing. There is no charge for his work for the Trump campaign or interactions with any Russian during the campaign.

Same with everything else.

Now, like I said why is Mueller not moving on Trump if Trump really schemed with Russia to alter an American election for President? That is a dangerous individual with the power to hurt America. You've got a major problem on your hands here. Not only is not moving to get the information out to Congress to act....but now Rosenstein is cautioning left wing groups to drop expectations and saying he has no right to make accusations with proof. Damning information comes out daily. Yet, you refuse to acknowledge it.

That's because all your phony left wing hoaxes have long since been dismissed by anyone not suffering from mental illness. Whether that be Buzzfeed....or Smollett.....or the Convington kids.....or the dossier....or Russian collusion...etc., etc. etc.

The public opinion of the low IQ part of the electorate who can't separate fact from fiction when they get fed this alt-left phony propaganda is not an opinion that matters. You seem to not figure that out.

Like I said, we're not the ones that produced the dossier or the Convington accusation...or the Smollett accusation....or the Buzfeed story....or any of the other hundreds of phony conspiracy theories. This is all YOURS, buddy *chuckles*

This is not an everyday "criminal investigation". It's a special counsel scammed into action by Democrats phony crying to investigate something that never existed. I would love to see Nadler "consult" with Mueller. It would be just another nail in the coffin for these evil scammers.

 

Let's explain this again because your low left wing IQ can't grasp. Roger Stone did nothing illegal with regards to his interactions with Wikileaks during the 2016 election and that's the reason he was not charged with anything. Therefore, it does matter what he did or didn't tell Trump about Wikileaks. Jesus Christ, man, how many times do we have to say it before that simple concept sinks in?

You don't think the FBI was already monitoring the Wiki twitter account? What the hell would Stone have told them? "Hey, I think this twitter account belonging to Assange tries to reveal government secrets". The FBI has been investigating Assange and following him closely for years. They were eavesdropping on Assange's conversations. Assange had already dumped emails earlier in the summer. There is nothing Roger Stone could have added to that. Stone's only communications with Wiki were over Twitter. That's why Assange is holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London.

Just stop with the left wing conspiracy theories, fake news, and propaganda. It's not real. That is evidence by your claim of "proof positive of collusion between Trump and Russia" despite there being ZERO charges on that front. This guy who was suppose to provide that "proof positive" wasn't accused of any illegal activity with Russia or Wikileaks.

TDS is nasty. You've got major pyschological problems, man. Go get help.

 

There are dozens of articles that said the same thing. Left wing propaganda news has talked about how important it was that this narrative be corroborated. Now we know it's fake. It never happened. And rather than just admit that pretty much ends the dossier as any sort of intelligence document and has put the collusion on life support you've essentially not said it's "meaningless". Just like the bank robber who was confirmed to be someplace besides the bank. Normal thinking people realize what it means for the investigation. It's "meaningless" only in the mind of the mentally ill.

"Inability to confirm"? WTF???? You left wingers are mentally sick. He said flat out that he has NEVER been to Prague. He has never conspired with any Russian for Trump, not for Trump, or otherwise. And he knows of no one in the campaign or Trump's orbit that did. An "inability" to confirm means he couldn't say for sure about someone else. He said flat out he did not do it and didn't go there. So, let me guess, Cohen lied again now? That is the ONLY way the dossier and collusion allegations are not running on fumes at this point. And if Cohen flat out lied again under oath his days as a free man and any use whatsoever as a witness are permanently destroyed. So did Cohen go to Prague and lie about it or did Cohen not go to Prague? Only ONE of those can be true. Either answer makes you look foolish.....but please answer anyway for the laughs. *chuckles*

 

Well if there are dozens of articles from responsible sources why do you have to keep pretending that the one you quoted says something that isn't actually in the article?

And Cohens statement he didn't go to Prague or know if anyone else did only says that Cohen didn't go to Prague. And since the main Republican defense for Trump is that Cohen is a proven liar why do you suddenly choose to take his denials as proven fact?

 

Ah, personal insults again. Better you should try to make sense instead of endlessly repeating your imaginary facts. Here is a bit of reading for you.

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2019/01/Roger-Stone-indictment.pdf

Would appear to indicate your " he wasn't charged with anything" is perhaps just a tiny bit incorrect!

 

When it's "core" to the investigation that is EXACTLY what it is saying.

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!! So you admit Cohen is a liar but now you cling to his every word? God almighty, the stupid cannot be helped!

Cohen is a proven liar. Cohen lies when it suits his agenda. His agenda is now to take down Trump. There would be no sense for Cohen to deny it now because it would succeed in his own agenda in bringing down the President. Kid, you are all over the map here. A mental mess at this point. Not sure what point you are trying to make anymore. Why are you doing this to yourself? Lulz

 

Here is my EXACT quote: "Roger Stone did nothing illegal with regards to his interactions with Wikileaks during the 2016 election and that's the reason he was not charged with anything."

You are really so mentally ill that you didn't understand what was being said? Or just lying about it? Either way you look pretty f'in pathetic on this forum.

And thanks for the link. Here's an article that will help you break it down with what the exact charges are: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ctment-what-is-roger-stone-charged-with-doing

To quote the article:

All the counts stem from Stone's Sept. 26, 2017, interview with the House Intelligence Committee investigating Russia's attempt to influence the 2016 election and the response by U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies. The indictment does not say Stone communicated with Wikileaks head Julian Assange. Rather, it says Stone lied about his attempts to learn Assange's intentions through two intermediaries

The indictment does not allege that Stone had any direct communications with Assange, nor does it allege that Stone or anyone else at the Trump campaign had any direct communications with Assange or any foreknowledge of actions that WikiLeaks took. The indictment does say there were communications between Stone and people in the Trump campaign related to WikiLeaks. Of course, everyone in the world was talking about the WikiLeaks disclosures in the days following their (July 2016) publication. The first thing to note is that it concerned the period after WikiLeaks' disclosure of DNC emails — no allegation of foreknowledge.

The indictment also suggests that by October 2016, with the election fast approaching, the Trump campaign was no longer paying any attention to Stone. In one email, Stone said he would tell a top Trump campaign official about WikiLeaks, "but he doesn't call me back."

Case, set, match. No whine some more about "personal attacks". When it's the truth it's not personal. It takes a very low IQ and/or mentally ill person not to see what this indictment was about and not realize that the Cohen testimony put the whole thing on life support. But it is what it is.

*chuckles*

 

The Russians killed the dinosaurs and are responsible for global warming....
they also caused the near extinction of the
Tonkin snub-nosed monkey, Hainan gibbon, Greater bamboo lemur and the Spoon-billed sandpiper.

 

Try to pay attention. The issue is Stone informing Trump of upcoming Wikileaks as testified to in the Cohen hearings. Nobody said he was charged for his contacts with Wikileaks.

And considering your obvious lack of intellectual capability and honesty you should probably give up on claiming others are mentally ill.

 

Well Trump has been proven to lie in excess of 10,000 times since taking office and you still believe him. At least Cohen has admitted lying which Trump never does.

His latest claiming he never said " Tim Apple" is hilarious since anyone can actually use yheir own ears to prove that specific Trump lie.

 

But not under oath, that's the difference between him and Cohen (and Clinton)

 

True. Morally a lie is a lie. Legally a lie doesn't matter unless under oath.

 

I'm not "claiming" you are mentally ill. You ARE mentally ill.

And we have repeatedly pounded the point in your head: It DOES NOT MATTER what Stone may have or may not have told Donald Trump about Wikileaks because Stone wasn't engaging in any illegal activity with them. Are you so mentally ill that you can't figure that little concept out? Jesus Christ. Wake up and look at yourself. You are acting like a left wing clown.

 

Sorry but your stupid need to resort to insults instaed of factual arguements proves the intellectual vacuity of your position. But then you are a typical intellectually challenged Trump supporter.

 

They are not "insults". They are the truth. The truth stands whether it hurts your feelings or not.

And you want "factual arguments" but then completely ignore the part about how I stated Stone did nothing illegal so it's impossible for there to be anything wrong with Stone relaying his perfectly legal information. This is a "factual argument". It's a severe mental illness not to be able to see that. Look, I understand you hate Trump and you wish badly for him to have committed some crime so that he can be taken down. None exists. So you are left to taking perfectly legal interactions and twisting them into some bizarre left wing spin. Roger Stone did nothing illegal with Wikileaks. Therefore, any conversation Roger Stone may have had with anyone with the Trump campaign regarding his interactions with Wikileaks is nothing. When you are mentally healthy enough to come to that realization let me know. You are just humiliating yourself on a public forum otherwise.

 

Nobody said Stone did anything illegal in talking to Wikileaks. That is just your strawman arguement because you cannot address what I actually said. But that's OK. We know you cannot actually deal with the facts so you have to lie about what I actually said so you can have something to pretend to rebut.

Here is what I actually said:

CourtJester said: ↑
Try to pay attention. The issue is Stone informing Trump of upcoming Wikileaks as testified to in the Cohen hearings. Nobody said he was charged for his contacts with Wikileaks.

Now do you want to debate what I actually said or debate what you want to pretend I said?

And by the way your endless need to resort to insults instead of fact only prove the vacuity of your arguments. But not to worry, I won't turn you in to the moderators. Your looking like a fool is good enough for me.

 

If you admit Stone did nothing illegal with Wikileaks then why are you all ass hurt about him talking about his perfectly legal interactions? Wake up, clown, you are making zero sense anymore. Your left wing mental illness has twisted your mind up so much you cannot even make a coherent point. TDS is nasty.

 

Except the only person talking about his interactions with Wikileaks is you. My posts were about Cohen confirming that Stone posted Trump that the leaks were coming.

And personal insults on top of lying don't actually make you look particularly intelligent.