THE CRASH WILL BE SPECTACULAR

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    Don't judge for yourself.. I don't do propaganda. I only speak my mind. But apparently, given the fact that censorship is rampant in the US and EU, you can't imagine anyone having an alternative opinion.
    For example, I am a supporter of communist ideas and have never hidden it. I write about it often. But Putin is promoting capitalism. We have opposing views on this issue.
    That is, on some issues we have the same views, but on some issues we have mutually exclusive views. That's why I don't write propaganda articles. I rarely write about my opinions at all. I show articles from Western sources. If you call what I show propaganda from the Kremlin, then you should recognize CNN, Fox, Times, Washington Post...etc. as Putin's agents.
     
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    Here we call it propaganda. You can call it whatever you like.
     
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    A very true statement….
     
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    One of these days the people the left are always trying to defend will have to push their own weight because we won’t have the funds to keep welfare programs going.
     
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    Yeah, yeah. I know. When citizens of the EU and the US can't reasonably refute information or when they don't like information, they always call such information propaganda.
     
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    Please convey my thanks to your boss Putin for instructing you to deliver this very important message.
     
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    I can understand why you would have difficulty comprehending why nobody believes a thing you post. In Russia, you and your fellow citizens take every statement from the government at face value without question. That’s why communism survived for decades and why daddy Putin is still the boss today after murdering reporters who criticized him. But outside of Russia, every statement is judged in part by the credibility of the person making it. And your credibility is literally zero. Even if you were to post something true, people would still be skeptical.
     
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    Putin is not my boss. But if you go live in Alaska, you can thank him when Alaska returns to Russia.
     
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    Ahahaha.... :roflol::roflol::roflol:

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    You do know Trump, remember him, added more debt than the four previous presidents combined, and in 4 years. Do you really think this is just a "left issue" here?
     
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    If only he had just said Iraq is full of Nazis!

    Oh wait. That wouldn’t work on Americans.
     
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    No it’s not, it’s largely an American issue. There are too many who refuse to give up their cake. I recently talked to my father about this and said how I was completely willing to give up my SS to end the program. He was not up for the idea and told him that’s exactly why we will never cut the deficit. No one is willing to stop their demands on the government.
     
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    No, we call it propaganda because that is what it is.
     
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    Don't make people laugh. Americans are often more susceptible to influences than other nations.
    Collin Powell can prove it.

    By the way, read about a school teacher's experiment at a school in Palo Alto called "Third Wave" in the US. How a teacher turned his students into Nazis in a week. I will specifically write a separate post about this experiment for you.

    Read it here. You can even write your own comment.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ned-his-students-into-nazis-in-a-week.615170/
     
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    The national debt the OP complains about only became a problem during the Reagan administration, when Ronald Reagan convinced Republicans that cutting taxes for the rich, while raising military spending, is the way to balance the budget and eventually pay off the national debt. No amount of contrary evidence convinces them of the folly of this doctrine.

    Now Republican politicians are using the rise in the national debt, for which they are responsible, in efforts to cut domestic spending programs they have never liked, but which they know are popular with the voters.

    What is also popular with the voters is a more progressive tax system.
     
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    The folly is cutting revenue WITHOUT CUTTING SPENDING. The problem is the spending and nobody but me wants to fix it.
     
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    You should have told Reagan, Bush II, and Trump that, when they raised military spending, while cutting taxes for the rich.
     
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    I don't have their ear so I have to tell people on an internet forum instead.
     
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    My point is that the Republican Party is responsible for the rise in the national debt.
     
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    No both parties are responsible for overspending. We allow lawmakers to make overspending a positive and they accept the challenge happily. You are allowing partisanship to cloud your perspective. The tax cuts don't reduce spending. They just shift the money from taxation to debt and money supply expansion - open taxation vs. hidden taxation. I doubt you would support a constitutional amendment requiring budgets and budget balances.
     
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    We have known that capitalism is a "paper tiger" since... MARX! (at a minimum) It has many contradictions and is always on the verge of collapsing. It has been that way for centuries. All we can do is enjoy it while it lasts because the alternative will be an economy managed by a totalitarian regime. It's much more stable to have a dictator control the economy. However, that doesn't mean that it's better for the people..
     
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    The problem only began with the Reagan administration. Reagan, Bush II, and Trump cut taxes for the rich and raised military spending. That is the source of the problem. As long as the top tax rate never got below 70%, and was often higher, we did not have a debt crisis.

    Republicans like a growing national debt. It prevents the Democrats from introducing domestic spending programs that help their natural constituencies.

    The GOP benefits when lower income whites think, "The Democrats never did anything for me. At least the Republicans won't take my guns."
     
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    Slave owners and feudal lords also said capitalism was stupid, kings be always been there and nothing else could be.
     

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