The Definition of Insanity that Republicans seem to not get

Definition of Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results.

Republicans in Congress don't seem to grasp the fact that their bill to repeal Obamacare is not going to go anywhere. They know the Senate is not going to pass it, and even if they did, Obama, the author (with the help of Republicans who now claim they don't like Obamacare) is not going to sign the "repeal" bill. So why do they keep submitting senseless bills? Maybe they are insane. Or maybe, they are not really worried about "spending" like they would like everyone to believe. Do you know how much taxpayer money they are wasting going through these fruitless exercises? Money that could be spent to better the country? And these are the patriots who love the country?

For the 40th time, Republicans pushed legislation through the House on Friday targeting President Barack Obama's health care overhaul, this one a bill preventing the Internal Revenue Service from implementing any part of the health care law.

The measure, symbolic because of the certainty that it will be ignored by the Democratic-led Senate, was approved by a near party-line 232-185 vote.

The legislation married two of the GOP's favorite targets: the 2010 health care law and the IRS, which in May conceded it had improperly targeted conservative groups seeking tax exempt status for detailed investigations.

Next year, the IRS will begin enforcing the requirement that most individuals have health insurance, collecting fines from people who don't. The agency also will distribute subsidies to help people buy insurance in new exchanges.

Repealing those provisions would enfeeble the heart of the measure, which was aimed in part at making health care more affordable for lower-income people. Analysts say healthy people must purchase health care to help cover the costs of those who are ill, and the fines are designed to prod those who are fit to buy policies.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23785753/house-oks-effort-repeal-obamacare-40th-time

 

Imagine that, 28 people have viewed this thread and no one dares to try and explain why they do it! Guess Republicans in Congress must be insane.

 

Yep, they never learn. Let's just hope that Obama doesn't get caught getting a blow job. I don't want to have to watch Impeachment Follies ever again. It'd be a cross between Jerry Springer and the Kardashians.

 

Well, you can never tell, some Republican/conservatives wouldn't stop at making something like that up. Look what they've tried to do with Benghazi!

 

To quote an elderly former secretary of state,"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE"!

 

Yeah, I need to point this out.

Republicans have tried to repeal obamacare exactly TWICE.

All those other "30" times mentioned, are them taking pieces of Obamacare, marginally shut it down, attaching something else the Democrats might like (continuing to fund ATC or the food stamps) and seeing if it will stick.

This has actually worked at least once, Obama himself signed a delay of parts of Obamacare. So, you can't say the effort was in vain.

 

It's not like Democrats have produced anything that works in the last 80 years either.

 

Well, for the party that claims to want to cut spending, they sure as (*)(*)(*)(*) aren't saving any money, wasting their time chasing rabits (Benghazi) and going after the impossible (Repealing Obamacare)!

Figure it out - they're not doing what they were hired to do, that is to put their constituents first in their thoughts and actions.

 

You need to come out from under that rock.

To name a few, how about Social Security? How about Medicare? How about Roe v Wade? They're all working, and the few intelligent Republicans are very aware and don't want them taken down.

 

And she was absolutely correct.

 

I know this is not the point of your thread but I simply cannot stand this repeated phrase. This is not the definition of insanity. Someone somewhere said this and people have been repeating this for years.

 

What, are you nuts? Believe the shrinks' definition? They are just Mamas' Boys who didn't earn a living until they were 30 years old. Anyone who trusts childish escapists like that needs to have his head examined!

 

The Republicans tried many times in the 1850s to end slavery.

If at first you don't succeed - try, try again.

 

So, you don't think it is insane to do something over and over and expect different results, even when you are considered to be smart enough to know the result is going to be the same because nothing has changed that would cause it to be different? I do.

 

Couple of questions:

1. Does Obama Care accomplish the stated purpose of the law?
2. What is the current popularity rate of the law?
3. What is the percentage of Americans that want to repeal the law?

Answer those questions, and then I will tell you what the GOP game plan is.

 

Its not an actual definition of insanity. Its just some oft repeated catch phrase.

 

This is great strategy. When Obama Care causes up to 65 million of working middle class with good company sponsored health care plans to be tossed into the crappy plans of the exchanges. My Ex works for Wally World, been there a long time. She pay $400 a month with a $20 co-pay for everything except for $50 for ER and $100 for Hospitalization and she's done. There isn't a plan in the exchanges that comes close even with the subsidies.



Even the Platinum Plan doesn't come close. According to the rate calculator at her income level approx $41,000 her estimated monthly premium would be $586 a month without subsidy for the SILVER PLAN. Now look up at the chart above at coverage for the silver plan. With the Government $260 subsidy it would be $326 a month. The coverages are no where near what she was getting through the huge group of her company sponsored plan. That's IF the Government doesn't start dropping the subsidy little by little, shifting more an more cost to her. There is no platinum plan rate calculator, only silver. How happy is she going to be when for $74 a month less she get that much less for the money? Now multiply her by up to 65 million others in her place and you can envision the "train wreck" Max Baucus (D) spoke of. I say let 'er rip. The Republicans only need 14 out of the 21 Democrat seat up in the Senate and 27 more in the House to get an Obama Veto proof majority. Considering the Democrats lost 69 seats in Congress for just voting Obama Care into law, when it belly flops into up to 65 Million People's lives that could lose their Employer-Sponsored Coverage........well it ain't looking to good for Democrats in 2014.

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The Obama High Speed Health Care train is going full speed ahead toward the bridge above. I hope the Republican's don't try to hard to stop it. There are tens of millions more that will be hurt by Obama Care than helped by it. I have a reserved spot by the bridge to witness the Obama Care express go barreling over that one, popcorn and adult beverages ready to watch what will be the tantamount to the end of the Democrat party, I can hardly wait.

 

Ted Cruz is going to make a death struggle out of it if he has his way, don't know if he will.

 

Pass that bill 50 more times. Nothing better to tell the people then we will kill obamacare. No one has a good reason to keep it around. Paperwork medicine never helped anyone.

 

Great post, but you forgot to add that she pays for the subsidy as well as a taxpayer. It doesn't fall from the sky. I think we need to keep repeating this to Dems because they seem to think the subsidy is free when you talk to them.

 

This is an odd argument. Let me get this straight, you're problem in this scenario is that Republicans keep fighting something they know they can't defeat? You would find it more "true" if in the name of cost-cutting, they dropped their counter-arguments to anything they couldn't win on? Should someone's ideology change in the face of adversity? Would you consider that the prudent measure to take? If Romney had won and reduced corporate tax rates, do you think the liberals should just fall in line and get behind corporate tax cuts if they didn't have the votes in the Senate? Really?

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Like and agree, I think this every time I hear it quoted, but I decline to mention it because I get their point even if they are misled on the definition.

 

And you repeat the self-serving gibberish of professionals. What right do they have to their jobs? Why would anyone with common sense look up to shrinks? There is a logical disconnect in our worship of self-appointed "experts." That would be another good definition of insanity.

 

Bwahahaha! I already know the GOP's game plan, don't need to answer any dumb questions.

 

Exactly.

To continue wasting their time on something they know is not going to go anywhere, is insane. That was the gist of my OP.

Sometimes you just have to know when to fold.

It doesn't mean they should stop campaigning against it, but wasting taxpayer money writing up worthless bills is foolish.

I would hope they would campaign on that fact, so that if the majority of people supported their view, they would win elections and root out the controversy. I would not support their wasting my tax money on something that they and I know would not go anywhere.

Yes, really. If you support that type of waste you are no better than they are and deserve what you get.

 

Don't forget voting records are heavily used in campaigning, if you roll over on your beliefs without voting for them you're often labeled a "flip-flopper".