The Disturbingly Creepy Institution Known as The Purity Ball

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  1. ryobi

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    The disturbingly creepy institution known as the purity balll.......


    America: land of the free, home of the… thoroughly (*)(*)(*)(*)ing weird? It’s hard to know what else to say about these striking and frankly terrifying portraits by Swedish photographer David Magnusson, which capture the institution of the Purity Ball: a religious rite wherein girls pledge not to have sex until they’re married. All the photos (which we spotted at Feature Shoot) depict the girls and their fathers, who glow with pride at the thought that their little girl won’t be despoiled until someone puts a ring on her finger. It’s hard to know where to start with this: the notion of sex as “impurity,” the fact that it’s all daughters and no sons, the idea of dressing a preteen girl in something that looks awfully like a wedding dress. But as with all the best photography, these images speak for themselves — as Magnusson himself says, he hasn’t aimed “to belittle or glorify the ceremonies… the interpretation is all up to the eye of the viewer.”





    Photo credit: David Magnusson

    http://flavorwire.com/454562/striking-creepy-photos-of-christian-purity-balls
     
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    These purity balls are as creepy as feminist genderless bathrooms :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    Feminists should get together with these guys and throw a purity ball with genderless bathrooms
     
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    Some people don't want sex until they have someone who loves them, and not everybody puts value on having as much sex as they possibly can.

    True tolerance recognizes this, and moves on.

    These are not creepy things, it's just a different point of view, how these people want to be.

    That's the entire problem with Americas, they all think we've all got to be the same, conform and obey.
     
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    I think its creepy that some people think its creepy for a teen girl to want to abstain from sex until her partner shows true commitment. It amazes me there are people advocating behaviors that promote unwanted children, poverty and welfare payments. Thats creepy. These girls are courageous to try to separate from what the world says is normal and "good".
     
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    You mean parents are asking their kids to wait before having sex? Oh the horror.
     
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    Why are there only daughters and no sons, and why aren't any mothers there? This looks like an incestuous group wedding between fathers and daughters.
     
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    Remember that show, "Hogan Knows Best," with Hulk Hogan?

    Hulk Hogan was extremely over-protective of his daughter. In fact, he won, "father of the year," from a Christian organization, but to me his over-protectiveness looked like the fumings of a jealous boyfriend.

    And guess what, the paparazi caught Hulk Hogan rubbing tanning oil on his daughters thighs near her buttocks, his eyes transfixed on his daughters body.
     
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    My only regret is that I didn't make this a poll.

    Who's creepier???

    A. The the fathers groping their daughters at these, "purity balls"

    or

    B. Feminists and their genderless bathrooms

    ????
     
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    While I see nothing wrong in purity balls, or any male or female vowing to remain a virgin until marriage (each to there own choice as far as I am concerned) the reality is that 90% of the girls who make this vow, break it. Saddest of all is one has to wonder how many of those 90% have informed knowledge of what can happen when the do break their vow and have sexual intercourse.

    I feel that the photographs are meant to portray the innocence of the girls and the protective nature of the fathers .. though it doesn't surprise me that the OP author see something more sinister, standard really.
     
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    The 90% is number is pretty misleading. Is this sex with the person they do end up marrying? How many of these girls have children out of wedlock? How many of these girls are on government welfare, raising children with no spouse. How many had an abortion. Compare with the "norm" out there...and you may have some good data. Ultimately...abstaining when you don't have a committed partner is simply commonsense. You act like people have no self-control and can't make rational thoughtful decisions. People can...but when they do, they are often mocked as outdated. Yep...it is hard when peer pressure says you are "creepy" for abstaining.
     
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    Everybody that is not liberal.

    Finding something creepy is hateful according to you guys, because according to you people are not allowed to be disgusted by the act of homosexual sex, that is hateful to you.

    So, since that act is creepy, and since it is hateful, then you're being hateful.

    Rules are the rules, after all.

    Simple logic.
     
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    So let's slam the U.S. southern states and Mexico, Central and South America wherever the celebrate the following:

    Oh dear! All this judgmental self-righteousness on the Left just ran headlong into the ethnic cultural traditions of a host of other nations . . . and sneering at such ethnic cultural tradiditons is automatically anathema where being a GOOD leftwinger is concerned. Oh the ideological conflict!
     
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    Uh huh. Lots of drama there. Meanwhile, fathers having faux weddings with their daughters is creepy, sexist and an unfortunate vestige of a patriarchal past.

    I get a kick out of right-wingers doing everything in their power to keep Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans out of the USA while claiming to care about them.
     
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    Logically if leftwingers sneer at the one cultural celebration then they are also sneering at the other identical celebration unless -- gasp! -- they are once again being bigots and hypocrites. As for welcoming, haven't leftwingers ever noticed that in heavily conservative states they actually get along just fine with their massive Hispanic population? As well they should since between one half and a third of Hispanics are conservatives.
     
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    Great. It's nice to know that conservative states are going to support immigration reform.
     
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    Oh absolutely! Depending on what form it takes, naturally.
     
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    Considering that these purity pledges are for the girl to remain a virgin UNTIL she is married, whether she has sex with the guy she eventually marries isn't really relevant, having any sexual relationship prior to marriage is breaking that vow.

    I doubt if there is any data out there pertaining specifically to the girls who take these pledges as far as having children out of wedlock, on welfare, unmarried mothers, abortions . .however it is interesting to note that 6 of the top 10 states with the most restrictive sex education ie mainly abstinence education do have the highest rates of teenage pregnancy.

    A study conducted by Janet E. Rosenbaum of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, revealed some of the most troubling data of all. A national longitudinal study of adolescents, specifically 934 high school students, examined one of the factors used as a measurement of success for abstinence-only education programs, the virginity pledge.

    First, the rate of the teens taking part in sex was the same. Those taking the virginity pledge were just as likely to have intercourse. The only positive, statistically small, was that those taking the pledge had 0.1 fewer sex partners over the five year study than did those who did not take such a pledge.

    However, two other findings were most damning. First, those taking the virginity pledge were less likely to protect themselves. Pledge takers were found to be less frequent users of condoms and other forms of birth control.

    Therefore, those youngsters who took the virginity pledge were not only just as likely to have intercourse, they ultimately were more likely to take part in sex in an unsafe manner. This has led experts to conclude that the lessons students take from their abstinence-only education programs is a negative and/or faulty view of contraception.

    Second, and most importantly, virginity pledges are one of the measurement tools for determining if the abstinence education program is effective. For these federal funded programs, the government has counted pledges as data that the program is effective.

    Rosenbaum summarizes the data succinctly, “Abstinence-only education is required to give inaccurate information. Teens are savvy consumers of information and know what they are getting.” - http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/123/1/e110.abstract

    and I agree with you, however I also understand the reality of the situation and that reality is that regardless of what "not until marriage" type of advice and/or education is given and regardless of how many girls/boys make purity pledges the chances are only about 10% will maintain it. Does that mean it should be dropped . .not in the slightest, however, these girls and guys also need to know how to protect themselves should they decide to have a sexual relationship prior to being married and as the vast majority of abstinence only programs either do not offer any education on contraception or offer information that is incorrect then IMO they are failing.

    That may be the case, I certainly don't mock them for making this type of decision, but neither do I pressurize them into making the decision, I have two step-daughters and I advised them that they should remain virgins until they were, at least, in a long term relationship . .however, I also advised them on contraception . .forewarned is forearmed.

    no doubt it is, but should we demean those who fail or ensure they have the best knowledge in order to protect themselves should they fail?
     
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    Still propagating the lie I see, you know what that makes you don't you?
     
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    All for celebrating cultural traditions, as long as those cultural traditions do not violate any laws of the country they are being held in, the above example is no different to the Jewish celebration of Bar Mitzvah, where the line should be drawn is the cultural tradition of female genital mutilation, so your attempt to demean others is a pathetic fail.

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    how can anyone possible compare the coming of age celebration with a purity pledge ball .. no logic at all in that comparison.
     
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    Pointing out generic and therefore standard examples of uber-leftwing hypocrisy is demeaning to leftwingers? Well sure, but then again what else is there to do on political forums between political crises?
     
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    I seen a picutre of a father and daughter standing in a gazebo looking thing a while back. The caption talked about the purity ball etc. It struck me as creepy, and I dont know if that was the intent of the photographer or if it was really creepy.

    I dont see the big deal about genderless bathrooms.
     
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    Pssst, I know you probably had to google what a quinceanera was, but to try and compare it to what the OP posted is a stretch. In fact, the only similarity between them is the fact that a teenage girl is involved. Stop trying so hard.
     

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