The end of abortion finally arrives

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Black Irish, Sep 22, 2021.

  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Why would an it, your word, need to get rights? Especially over a living breathing human being.

    And the it does get rights that the mother to be gives that it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Absolutely NOT..... a fetus has PROTECTIONS which is a different word with a different meaning than "rights".

    It's "protection" is that abortions over viability (23-24 weeks ) are banned...

    HOW-EFFING-EVER, IF a woman's life or health is at stake then an abortion can be performed after viability because the fetus has NO RIGHTS...


    HOW do you do that? Wave a magic wand ???

    And it wouldn't solve anything since if the rights of the fetus interferes with the rights of the woman IT LOSES :)
     
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    The bible says, for those interested, that life begins with the first breath!
     
  4. Black Irish

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    Why would it (a negro), need to get rights? Especially over a living, breathing (white) plantation owner?
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    You think (a negro) isn't a living breathing human being? Do tell!!
    They would also be able to fight for their rights as afforded in the constitution. And in fact actually did fight.
     
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    Black Irish Banned

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    Which is why keeping them illiterate was a good idea, then they wouldn't be able to legally fight for it.
     
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    When you can teach a zygote to be literate, let us know.
     
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    Gee gosh , you "forgot" to address Post # 152......was it too inconvenient ? :)
     
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    Slaves were BORN so they had rights...until their rights were violated by the people who enslaved them.....then their rights were restored....how many times do you need to be told these simple facts??
     
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    So you think that was a good idea...keeping black people illiterate................
     
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    The above applies to restoring of the slavery by some states and counting Blacks as 3/5 US citizen?
     
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    If you're going to teach the Bible then provide a reference so we can read it in its context. People in the Bible say a lot of things but it doesn't mean it's coming from God.
     
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    ROFL! That's total babble.... and not how the SCOTUS sees it. I am not going to muse about Democratic Party desires like those.
     
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    Both sides are for "Freedom" - but only for things they agree with .. which of course is not belief in freedom at all - as belief in Freedom is belief in freedom for things you disagree with.
     
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    Freedom of that kind should be thrown into the garbage burner. "Freedom" is trash, and the only people who can properly enjoy it are those who possess morality.

    Thankfully America was never a "free country" in that sense - we don't have "freedom" to rape, to murder, to molest children, and other types of things which "freedom fetishes" would likely indulge in if it weren't for the the order which thankfully restrains their inferior and bestial desires.
     
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    When using the term "Freedom" - in the context of the USA - what is meant is essential liberty - which is not the freedom to rape, kill steal.

    Your mission - should you choose to accept it - is to figure out what the founding principle is. "Hint" 4 words .. two of them "Essential Liberty" - and explain why this does not include "the freedom to kill"

    12 years of school and we manage not to teach what the Founding principle is .. but, it is never too late !
     
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    Which is usually post viability
     
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    And you do not have “freedom” to take away someone’s right to privacy nor can you force them to gestate.

    If a woman is determined to seek an abortion how will you stop her?
     
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    Do you have a white pointed hood to go with that opinion?
     
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    Sooooo when do those “rights” start? At conception? Implantation? Viability? Does a two year old have a second amendment right? Can a three year old vote in an election?
     
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    The right to life begins at conception, and when a person decides to terminate the pregnancy via an abortion, they're terminating that God-given right.
     
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    Really? Then what about all those fertilised eggs being thrown away at fertility clinics? Are you going to charge a woman with having an abortion every time a fertilised egg fails to implant?

    Are you aware that the biggest abortionist of all IS God as only 50% or less of all fertilised eggs implant and then many fail to develop and of those 10 - 15% end in a natural abortion (miscarriage)
     
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    That "right to life" you yell about interferes with the woman's rights...and besides, it doesn't exist....

    Laws and rights are based on facts , not some mythical being like a "god".
     
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    No, the "right to abortion" masquarading as "women's rights" is what doesn't exist.

    The axioms or imperatives upon which any recognition of legal rights for the unborn are based to begin with, most certainly exist

    God of course, is factural (and "mythology" has nothing to do with God - superstitious mythology being the domain of the atheistic and easily suggestible).

    Not muchso you fallacious mythology about nonexistent "rights" to abortion.
     
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    :) Yes, it does....but there's no "masquerading"...women have rights, too :) :)



    Prove it.



    There is no spelled out right to abortion but women do have a right to bodily autonomy and privacy even if righties don't want them to :)
     

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