The End of Abortion in America is Coming Soon

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Because conceptions do not advance to become human unless there is implantation - and that happens only 30% of the time
     
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    Your inability to counter is acknowledged. Sometimes the truth remains the truth.
     
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    I don't know anyone advocating the "wealthy will go overseas like they did before abortion was illegal in the US." I don't think pro-lifers want "the poor will go to illegal clinics or have the children and then be blamed for irresponsibly having children that they can't afford."

    I don't know anyone who says that is "The ideal Republican world of the 1950's."

    I don't know anyone who wants "to make birth control and sex education unavailable" or "that any sex out of marriage could be punished" or who want to punish "gay sex which will require additional laws."

    There, I countered your stupid non sequitur statements.
     
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    Which simply means the people you know have not thought out the consequences of making abortion illegal.

    We don't even have to speculate about what will happen - we know from the period just before abortion was legalized in this country that the wealthy were taking abortion "vacations".
    We know that back room abortion clinics were in operation. We know that Operation Jane was set up and was putting together thousands of women with clinics that would
    perform abortions.

    That does not even take into account that women today have been raised with idea of abortion being legal. We know that airline flights to countries that perform abortions are inexpensive and vastly more accessible to the general public than they were when abortion was illegal.

    The drive to make abortion is a complete waste of money and time. Every dime spent on making abortion illegal could be spent on sex education, free condoms and vasectomies and
    day-after-pills. This would reduce abortions far more than sending it underground.
     
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    No, it just means you people are making crap up. This is the mindset of liberalism. Justifying everything evil and vilifying all that is good.

    Is abortion a better alternative to life? No.
    Is promiscuity better than abstinence? No.
    Maybe the alternative to abortion is not getting pregnant in the first place. Isn't that better, yes or no?
    Yet liberals encourage promiscuity even though it results in unwanted pregnancies. Why? Because it promotes their agenda of making everything equal. And the only way they can do that is make everything that is good no better than everything that is bad. In order to do away with all prejudice, liberals must stop using all reason and logic. In doing so, they take all that is good and make it bad, and all that is bad and make it good. Evan Sayet says it better than anyone I have ever heard:

    [video=youtube;Xkyn3JaLrcw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkyn3JaLrcw[/video]

    Sharon Osbourne: Abortion 'Worst Thing I Ever Did'
    "I would never recommend it to anyone..."

    Unbreak My Heart: Singer Toni Braxton Faces Immense Guilt Over Abortion, Feared “God’s Payback”

    Nine Celebrities Who Have Spoken Out About the Horrors and Regret of Their Abortions
     
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    The practical goal of prolife is to outlaw abortion for poor women while remains available to other women who can afford to travel. That makes it a comfortable issue for Republicans. Most know they could afford for the daughter or granddaughter to get an abortion no matter what the law is. Rather, it will only affect other people, just like prolife men are absolute that their parental duties they put on women absolutely do not apply to them in the slightest. Most prolife men will openly admit they want a legal right to force women to have an abortion and their real objection is that women have the right and they don't.

    Its not about abortion. It is about power over and control of other people that you yourself are exempt from.
     
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    Just like rapists, it's all about power and control.
     
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    You lack of knowledge counters nothing . And if you don't think Conservatives have tried endlessly to prohibit sex education in schools and to make birth control unavailable then you are clearly living in a delusional world.
     
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    No body is advocating the wealthy going overseas for abortions. You have a language difficulty. What I said was if abortion becomes illegal in the US the wealthy will go overseas for abortions exactly as they did before abortion became legal in the US. Is this difference too subtle for you to comprehend?
     
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    As you notice in my sig line, I should be called a baby too, shouldn't I? I mean it's nonsense and dehumanizing to talk about matters in age and stage of development. Let's just say everyone is a baby. Even a brain dead person is just a baby at a certain stage of development.

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    Now just go to Canada, Mexico or on a Caribbean cruise with a port stop.
     
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    Radical prolifers want to empower rapists and give them procreation motivations on top of that. They want the government to join forces with the rapist so his assault continues and worsen 24/7 for nine months, then hours of torture and labor, assuring the rapists physical control over her and - possibly - help the rapist convert the assault to permanently crippling, disfigured or murdering the girl. Statistically many rapists are prolife and that is their goal of the rape - to force her to be pregnant. I presented stats on another thread. Radically prolifers want the courts, cops and prisons to use their power to back up those rapists' goal of forcing her to have his baby as his reason he raped the girl.
     
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    There is one difference with me, I don't call them "radical " Pro-lifers, they are just Pro-lifers, they are all the same...
     
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    I disagree. Only a small percentage of "pro-lifers" oppose abortion in the instances of rape, incest or the life of the mother - and many do not want abortion made illegal but rather oppose it on moral/religious grounds. Radical prolifers want abortion illegal in all instances and want a girl who has one to die or be imprisoned for life. That's what I mean by "radical" prolife.
     
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    I understand.

    I don't consider them radical if they just huff and puff about it but if they so much as vote for someone because they are anti-abortion or donate to anti-abortion sites or in any way try to take away women's rights to their own bodies I then consider them radical...taking away rights is radical...
     
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    Thank you for your contributions
     
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