The End Of Democracy In The USA

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  1. Rjohnson

    Rjohnson New Member

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    I suspect both the democrats and the media of cheating to elect Joe Biden. Trump should keep fighting. If there's a chance that cheating is involved, Trump should fight it all the way. He should fight because of the principle.

    Put yourself in Trump's shoes. If you were President and you believed you had been cheated, would you want to concede? Of course not.

    I want to believe there was no cheating and I hope there was no cheating. But I am suspicious. Cheating may have occurred and if it did, the people who are responsible, must not succeed. I hope that Biden won fair and square and if he did win fair and square, he deserves to be our 46th President. But if he was elected immorally and cheating is allowed to prevail, America can kiss its democracy goodbye. Democracy will be a thing of the past.
     
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    agreed 100%
     
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    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    And I suspect that the Republicans cheated. There. Now we are even. Case dismissed.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    I hope there's nothing going on next door. I mean, I hope my neighbor isn't beating his wife, and I have absolutely no evidence that he is, but be a sport and go check it out please. You know, just in case.
     
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    Why would the Dems cheat just enough to take the presidency, but not enough to win down ballot races?
     
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    Hatred.
     
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    This is what happens when paranoid "suspicions" are seen by the gullible as a replacement for honest evidence.

    You can't hold democracy hostage just because you think that you feelings are more important than facts.
     
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    That’s not a very good answer. You think they’d go through the risk and the trouble of cheating on the presidential election and not bother to do anything about the senate which is arguably more important?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No investigation first?
     
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    Did Trump hold an investigation prior to claiming fraud?
     
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    It is absolutely more important. But the emotion of hatred put Trump at the top of the hit list. I can't imagine why you missed that. It has been going on for four years.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dunno. But he hasn't declared 'case dismissed.' Because theres investigations to conduct.
     
  13. DaveBN

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    Still fails to answer the question. You think Dems cheated to oust Trump and ignored down ballot races that would have made some of their party’s platform achievable because Orange Man Bad?
    It seems as though you somehow think Dems to be incompetent while at the same time capable of mustering the greatest voter fraud in American history. The two sentiments are antithetical.
     
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    Fair enough. I’ll await substantiating evidence for both.
     
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    90,000 votes in Philly with Biden only circle filled in. have you seen pics of the people working the rooms, there is your answer. too stupid to occur to them to at least fill in a few more down ballot circles or, they just were in a hurry, takes time to fill out fraudulent ballots you know.
     
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    1) Evidence? 2) People only voting for president and not caring about the down-ballot is hardly new. 3) No, it really wouldn't have taken any considerable time for a fraudster to fill out the rest.

    Sorry, but it just sounds like the latest in a long list of fake arguments.
     
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    Plausible deniability.

    They can't make it that obvious then even folks like you would have to struggle to defend them.

    They are making it easy for their foot soldiers.
     
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    Where is your evidence of this?
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when you start adding them all up. Its more than enough to at least check out but the left is afraid we may actually find something.
     
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    Dude it's happening all over, take the blinders off for one second and look.
     
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    I have yet to hear anyone from the left express any such concern or even object to recounts or investigations. But, for an investigation, you at least need a sliver of evidence. Once again, you guys have none. You've gone from complaining about "fishing expeditions" to making it them the core of your identity.
     
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    Overwhelming support for Dem candidates would have made everything more believable. At this point we have people voting for Biden and Republicans down ballot. That seems less likely than people voting straight ballot.

    You all have to stretch so hard to make your narrative work. How many people do you believe would have to be in on this scam?
     
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    If you have evidence, present it. It isn't our job to do your homework for you.
     
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    Platitudes are not a substitute for evidence.

    Oh wait, you don’t do evidence. I remember now.
     
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    To recap:
    "The fact that it only worked out for Biden is really suspicious! What about the down-ballot? The lack of down-ballot is evidence of a conspiracy!"
    "If there were a conspiracy, then why wouldn't they secure the down-ballot too?"
    "Because that would be even more suspicious! Pay attention! No down-ballot wins = suspicious! Down-ballot wins = suspicious! No matter what happens, it's suspicious!!!!!!"
     
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