The experiment in democracy has come to an end

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Across the entire history of humans and humanoids for tens of thousands of years 99.9999% of people to ever live have lived under authoritarian non-elected governments. Nearly all people were impoverished slaves, servants, peasants, serfs with no real concept of human, civil or individual rights. Yet humanity has survived and grown.

    The American experiment in democracy was predicted to ultimately fail at many levels:
    1. Mob rule is ignorant and easily manipulated rule (Which is true)
    2. People will figure they can use government to steal money for themselves and vote accordingly (Elections now mostly are about economic promises)
    3. People tend to oppose anything different from themselves, so Americans will become the most imprisoned and regulated people in the world (which happened).
    4. The rich can buy all newspapers and therefore information sources become just propaganda of the rich (which has happened)
    5. Voters do not matter, only who counts the vote matters. (Voter fraud as has happened).

    The 24/7 bioterrorism campaign of the MSM of the richest people on earth continues to destroy their only competition - middle class merchants - in pursuit of the USA being 1% rich and powerful and 99% servants of the rich. The covid-19 campaign has been exorbitantly successful for the rich and powerful to fully take over - and they have. Accept that fact.

    In my opinion, the USA has now become a corporate fascist mix between being a plutocracy and kleptocracy. Elections are only a facade and diversion from reality to falsely convince us peasants that we are relevant.

    Americans, like the rest of the human race, will live as it has always lived, under the thumb of some version of authoritarian government for which nearly all people are mere servants - or worse - of the rich and powerful. The experiment in democracy was barely a blink of the eye in the overall history of humanity - and that experiment failed as philosophers and sociologists at the time predicted. But that does not mean you can't survive. Rather, it means it best you accept your trivial faceless and powerless place in society.

    The more you live in reality - rather than the false illusions of democracy - the more you stop believing that you have legal, civil and human rights - the better, safer and less frustrating your life will be. Accept that in terms of power you are exactly nobody. The old phrase was "you are the salt of the earth." None of you matter individually. Rather, you are just a worker bee of the hive run by and for the rich and powerful. Nothing more. But slave owners have to feed their slaves and lords have to provide minimal survival needs to their servants. And that's who most of you are - servants of the rich and powerful of the world.
     
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  2. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We are becoming serfs. Look how fear alone has given authoritarians the power to destroy small businesses while enriching the most powerful and big business.
     
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    "The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."


    "Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."


    "The Matrix is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth."


    "The Matrix is a computer-generated dream world, built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into this."

    -Morpheus

    But to the OP. What exactly do you suggest?
     
  4. Daniel Light

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    We have become a nation of self-serving ass-hats.

    The last time over 100,000 Americans died in one year from an outside threat, we buckled up, starting rationing, were willing to give up our freedom
    and join a fight we didn't want to be in and worked as one to defeat the enemy ...

    Now it's ...

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    So now it's Trump lost and now our experiment in democracy failed???
     
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    Memes are great. Why think for ones self when it has already been done for you. So your answer is to become like the last enemy?
     
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    More like we need you to shut down your business for 6 months. Does the left not understand the breadth of the damage done to America by wiping out 50% of black small businesses via lockdowns and riots? To see the left applauding the greatest erasure of black wealth in human history (AT THEIR HANDS) is beyond nauseating. To see them champing at the bit for more lockdowns of the most vulnerable businesses is a clear indicator of the kind of human beings they are and who they REALLY care about.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/pedrod...lf-of-black-small-businesses/?sh=5161517d4310
     
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  8. Daniel Light

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    Asinine post on your part. No one is "applauding" shut downs - it's a last stop measure to prevent the overwhelming of our health care system.
     
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    So much nonsense in one post.

    Americans and America are so wealthy, spoiled, and entitled, they can't even understand history.

    While more and more countries transition to economic systems that mimic ours, people scream "it failed!".

    So much ridiculousness.
     
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    This is what happens when the Atlas model promoted by Trump and Repub governors is used.
    https://time.com/5899432/sweden-coronovirus-disaster/

    Strict adherence to protocols to prevent COVID's spread were required in the US to avoid the kind of third wave we're experiencing. But between those conservatives who refused to comply and those who just didn't believe COVID was real (thanks to Don and right wing media propaganda/disinformation) we have the world's worst outbreak. Look no further than yourselves for current measures to slow the spread and keep deaths to a minimum. It didn't have to be this way.
     
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    I know, you now to fear when 999 out of 1000 survive.
     
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    Have there actually been any medical systems that have been overwhelmed and denied treatment? That would be news to me
     
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    When government orders a mom and pop independent little clothing store an illegal business, while keeping the clothing department of WalMarts open, the goal of destroying middle class merchants isn't even questionable.

    Study human history. Virtually all human and civil rights was the result of a rising middle/merchant class with enough resources to challenge the rich and powerful. For the rich and powerful to have absolute power the merchant class must be eliminated. Take control of all info outlets (TV, newspapers, internet) as the richest corporations and people have and no opposition can be organized, assuming the 24/7 corporate-fascist propaganda isn't enough.
     
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    All experts including Fauci and the US Surgeon general - and all networks - insisted wearing masks will spread covid-19. That only changed when covid-19 because a political tool to seize power, destroy the merchant class and condition people to be totally controlled.

    In fact, those areas with the most covid-19 deaths are the areas with the strictest mask and stay-indoors orders - exactly as the experts predicted would happen.

     
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    You views don't match up with the facts.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/health/mask-mandates-kansas-coronavirus-wellness/index.html

    https://www.kwch.com/video/2020/10/...ows-masks-effectiveness-fight-against-covid-/

    GOP Guv. Slams Other Republicans For Refusing To Wear Masks: ‘Don’t Act Like A Bunch Of Children’
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...-wear-masks-dont-act-like-a-bunch-of-children
     
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    The sky will fall January 20. Or maybe the trump cult will end up like Jonestown. Some right wing politician in Arizona is already telling the rubes that they should be ready to die for trump.
     
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    Succint and straight shooting. One minor clarification: you say, "under the thumb of ..... authoritarian government .... - or worse - of the rich and powerful" when in practice they become one and the same.
     
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    Unfortunately, I find nothing untrue in the OP's comments. How depressing though. I have believed for a while that covid was being used to control the population, that small business is intentionally being squashed, that our healthcare has become our new God, schools turned into what amounts to re-education camps, and our 2nd amendment rights will be removed, because that is usually the first step in authoritarian rule. Unsure whether communism or fascism is the right definition, but it amounts to the same for most of us.

    Trump was most likely our last hope.
     
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    You don't have to be depressed.

    None of that stuff is happening. The system worked like it's supposed to.


    Such melodrama. ;)
     
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    Statements like that put you in the category of elitists who have contempt for representative democracy.

    Being a Trump supporter indicates you favor rule by a minority of the mob.......by your definition. One I hold in contempt.
     
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    Mob rule is not representative democracy.
     
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    And it utterly fsiled. When the 'cure' is more damaging than the disease and over the long haul nearly as fatal wise people don't even talk about repeating the tradgedy. But for the Dem leadership the disease is merely a convenient excuse to slap down the growing rebellion on their vote farm.
     
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    Don't be so negative. The experiment has worked for a hundred + years and can still work. So ONE election was stolen and not decided by the people. That doesn't mean the system is broken forever. Have Faith!
     
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    LMAO...you spin a fanciful line of bullshit there, bub, but you forgot the worst enemies of American democracy these days are trump and his cult.
    It's time we called a spade a spade and call out the seditious traitors in positions of authority that enabled trump to mount and perpetuate his coup attempt.


    https://news.yahoo.com/constitution-answer-seditious-members-congress-113001597.html
     
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    You think the system is going to get fixed or get worse?
     

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