The GloBULL warming CULT want death penalty for people who don't believe their crap

Hey PC, these guys will take you round and round in circles. Their only consideration is their political persuasion! They basically have a huge gripe with the current prime minister and simply want to oppose everything that she does. I'm not sure of your age, but I have been around for a fair time to know what has gone on over numerous decades on our planet and especially QLD. There have been many unusual events as a consequence of weather, especially over the past decade. Records just simply continue to be broken every year. There is a concerning link with the rise of CO2 over the course of the past twenty years, which I think many discerning ppl are sick of posting evidence of. As you can see it is mainly denialists posting on the climate related OPs, because others are sick of the blatant ignorance. It is simply a political persuasion argument. If the Tories had introduced the ets, it would have been claimed to be the wisest decision man has made! Ah well!

 

Really, then I guess you know how much water is needed to grow cotton. Sorry, I think you know very little about this, so to presume you have the answer is just ludicrous.

http://www.anra.gov.au/topics/agriculture/cotton/index.html#landwater

Perhaps that will help

 

LOL... because we do not agree with you and your religion.

So far all you seem to barely notice is what happened yesterday, let alone a decade ago.

Obviously, with your head in the sand, as you do not seem to realize exactly what is the normal events in Queensland. Oh wait, You must live in Brisbane, As city people only know what happens on that side of the mountain. In case you did not know there is a huge country on the other side of that mountain, far bigger than you can believe.

What unusual events? You record breaking floods? You supposedly once in 100 year floods that occur frequently? LOL… so far you seem to ignore all evidence to the contrary

Wasn’t it you who claimed the last flooding event in Queensland was record breaking and a 100 year event? When shown that it happens far more often that you like, you shut up like a clam.

So far you have attempted to claim history breaking events that is factually untrue. When do you think you will answer the points raised by yourself? Perhaps this new claim? No, I think you will continue to show your ignorance with blatant lies, just like your own PM.

The question you have to answer is, considering there is such evidence of CO2 rising and your claim it is the reason for global warming, why is it that actual observations do not correlate with your claim. In fact according to your religion as CO2 increases temperatures should increase, either steadily as the IPCC claimed or sporadically as that is the only way to account for an anomaly a decrease in average worldwide temperatures over recent years As actual observations show.

I notice you ignore the point, the IPCC have overestimated the increases far above the actual observations with respect to temperature rises. Or are you simply going to ignore the IPCC report because it does not agree with your supposed idea of what is actually happening?

Perhaps, you could show where they have correlated the rises of CO2 in the atmosphere in comparison of the temperature fluctuations of the past to demonstrate the fact YOU claim that CO2 causes global warming? As they are studing to this point that very subject and have not concluded anything, I am assuming you can not.

Another point you might consider is the thermohaline circulation is not acting the way they hypothises would occur. Thus should the currents continue to act in accordance of current observations a world wide cooling effect will occur. Any clues? I think not.

LOL… blatant ignorance? Your attempt to inject yourself into these types of discussions, with no knowledge or even support for your claims, shows exactly the type of religious zealot you are. We do not agree with you make idiotic claims without any evidence or support, then run. Simply because you have no idea.

LOL… Political. Perhaps, if you could actually produce something to account for your claims then we could even consider debating issues with you… But due to the fact you are simply returning to a previous claim of record breaking events that are not as you claim them to be.

Talk about running in circles trying to attribute something that is not true to a religious belief of something nobody seems to be able to support. With claims of scientist say this is happening and that is happening when that is not true either, no people who really think for themselves investigate anomalies that occur and decide from that. Not drones such as yourself, then it is all settled because somebody told you so…LOL

 

Once again points have been discussed, debated time and time and time again. (I can't help giggling at your thesis). There are plenty of previous threads whereby people can judge for themselves the realities of the argument. Why start a new thread to argue the same points over and over again, obviously to draw people's attention away from debunked denialist crap that has been smashed over and over again. No one could be bothered arguing the point, due to the fact that is a left right argument and not an argument that is without a deeply held gripe!

 

So again you have nothing then. Again making claims with no substance or even knowledge of truth, and expecting all to believe. Yep certainly sounds like you are ignorant of facts with total inability to think for yourself.

If it has been around and debated everywhere, why is it you cannot back YOUR claims? Is it because they are lies? Just like your favourite PM

You are the one who raised them and due to the fact these are current events, I am sure your points have not been covered anywhere else. So what is it, are you simply a superficial liar or can you support them?

It is obvious the answer is NO.

 

I don't know how you got suckered into this religion TV, but seriously man it was way obvious that this was one huge scam from the very beginning....how you could not see it for what it is, is truly amazing....I supposed that is what they call blind faith....pope Gore is a scammer and should be in jail....wake the hell up mate! Anyway just more proof what a freaking scam this cult is!
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Deutsche Bank co-chief named in carbon tax investigation

Two board members at Deutsche Bank, including the lender’s co-chief executive, have been drawn into a police investigation into tax evasion related to the group’s carbon trading business.

Jürgen Fitschen, co-chief executive, and Stefan Krause, a director, are involved in the investigation that on Wednesday saw hundreds of police and tax officials raid the bank’s headquarters in Frankfurt, as well as private addresses in Berlin, Düsseldorf and Frankfurt.

The investigation is centred on 25 of the bank’s staff, according to German prosecutors, and involves allegations of tax evasion, money laundering and obstruction of justice linked to carbon trading certificates.

In a statement Deutsche Bank said: “Two of Deutsche’s Bank’s management board members, Jürgen Fitschen and Stefan Krause, are involved in the investigations as they signed the value-added tax statement for 2009.”

Deutsche Bank added: “The bank corrected this a long time ago voluntarily. Unlike the public prosecutor’s office, Deutsche Bank is of the opinion that this correction took place in due time.”

About 500 police and tax officials were involved in the raids and five staff members were arrested as part of the carbon trading investigation.

rest of the article:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-chief-named-in-carbon-tax-investigation.html

 

Are you kidding me mario? What does this article suggest to you that indicates carbon pricing is a scam?

 

Talk about BLIND??!!??!!??

Dude keep your head in the sand!

It might be too overwhelming for you if you take it out.

Its better this way.

 

Fire away......tell me how this article explains that the carbon price is a scam. I'm all ears!

 

The only thing i'm going to say is that trading carbon credits on the market will detract from the real issue of reducing manmade CO2.

 

I rest my case your honor!

 

How ?.....

 

Ha! He got you there - you still have not answered his question - or mine for that matter

 

Seriously Bower how do you get that tv "got anyone" apart from him and yourself being conned by the biggest scam in human history. The article was about bankers ripping off the public with this carbon credit scam...what we have been saying all along is that the Globull warming load of crap was a bankster scam right from the very beginning....so it is only logic now that the bankers are cashing in on their scam.

Gee why do you think the minister for Goldman sachs, malcom Turdbull is such a devoted convert to the globull warming religion? He is a gang member in the Banker mafia trying to cash in on this scam!

 

Did the Liberal party get elected while I was not watching??

Turnbull is a SHADOW minister

Big difference

 

I have no doubt in my mind, that the vast majority of ACC disciples, have the "ability" to "justify" emotionally pre determined opinions, by the use of the carefull selection of facts, accetnuating anything convenient, and discarding / ignoring / downplaying, inconvenient facts. One other example of this particular "talent", is the PC distortion of our history. Minds that are easily satisfied, can on some occasions, be easily indoctrinated by the use of distortion, and selective ommission.

 

He got me! HOW?

The system he has placed his faith in to clean up manmade CO2 is being rorted by the people at the top.

He rested his case cause he aint got one

I dont recall a question asked to me by your good self on this thread, i have looked and failed to find it.

Care to elaborate or reiterate.

 

I am currently listening to Pope Gore being interviewed on Lateline promoting his new book telling us we are all gunna die here in Oz unless we listen to him....he just said all the "experts" are spot on in what they said...gee he doesn't mention Flannery saying we were going to be in permanent drought for the rest of our lives in 2007....man this Pope gore sounds and looks like a Cult leader....a lot like Jim and Tammy Baker....Jimmy Swaggart....when is this Tele evangilst, self proclaimed saviour of the world going to be arrested for one of the biggest frauds against humanity?

 

The patron saint of global warming.

How can anyone in there right mind take this pig seriously.

With one hand he spreads doom and destruction with the other he's set to make BILLIONS from the doom and gloom he is spreading.

All you people that have fallen for his scam that manmade global warming will destroy the Earth.

Just remember that Al Gores company is already buying and selling carbon credits.

He is online to become the world's first carbon billionare.

 

Way past time to shut down this out of control corrupt UN...their Globull warming scam exposed the UN for what it is....a banker started up org to scam the world and they prtend they have some sort of legitimacy....freakin con artists (and Australia paid 2.9 billion dollars to get on the security council of this corrupt org....)

Just look at these clowns, none of them are qualified to talk about the weather tomorrow let alone their end is nigh crap of taxing the world from their "we are all gunna die unless we pay trillions to the bankers"

What a scam organisation!
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So Called UN Climate Experts Academically Unqualified in Meteorology

February 6, 2013

The people in charge of dictating policy on Global Warming/Climate Change in the world are nothing more than placebo climate scientists who have no more right to claim to be meteorologists and atmospheric physic experts than your medical doctor does.

We would not dream of going to our mechanic for a medical related condition or getting advice about a plumbing problem from an attorney. However, this is exactly what we are doing when we believe these liars at the IPCC, WMO, United Nations and other related organizations who are in positions of dictating climate policy.

The IPCC “Intergovernmental Panel On Climate Change” is made up of individuals who, although well educated in unrelated fields, having nothing to do with meteorology or climate science they all share a background as environmentalists. They want us to believe they are expert climate scientists when nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, they are experts in fields necessary in duping people into believing in GW/CC such as computer manipulation necessary in showing fake images, tampering with actual weather data to make it appear as they want us to see it, rather than as it actually is and arranging results from their own findings to fit their preordained ideas.

The World Meteorological Organization “WMO” quickly made changes to their top three, since it was discovered that the previous head of the organization Dr. Alexander Beritskiy was nothing more than an Enviroclown masquerading as a climate scientist. Beritskiy’s second in command was Dr. Ali Noorjan of Iran who was President of Islamic Republic of Iran Meteorology and Permanent Representative of Islamic Republic of Iran at the WMO, which led to questions of credibility and motive from the beginning. These guys have since been replaced with current President David Grimes who on the surface seems like a qualified meteorologist from his resume which reads; David Grimes was elected President of the World Meteorological Organization by Sixteenth World Meteorological Congress in 2011 for a four-year term beginning immediately after the closure of the Congress.

David Grimes has been Assistant Deputy Minister and head of Environment Canada’s Meteorological Service since July 2006. He has been Canada’s Permanent Representative with WMO since December 2006.

Mr. Grimes has 35 years of scientific, research and management experience at Environment Canada. He has over 20 years experience working with WMO initiatives and programs.

His experience also includes a significant number of challenging positions and assignments over the years, ranging from operations to science to policy. He occupied the position of Director General with the Meteorological Service of Canada for 15 years for a number of posts, including Canadian Climate Center, Policy, Services, Predictions and Partnerships.

Mr. Grimes has extensive educational experience in the domains of science and management (MBA level). He holds a Bachelor of Science in physics, mathematics and meteorology and is a certified professional meteorologist.}

What we are not told is Grimes is not a meteorologist but yet another environmentalist placebo meteorologist.

Grimes was the head of Environmental Canada Meteorological Service since 2006, but only in the capacity of an environmentalist. His resume states he is an accredited meteorologist. On the surface, it seems that he is qualified for the position. Upon further examination, however it seems he is only an honorary meteorologist. His professional Certification comes from NOS Canada’s National Occupational Standards, which is nothing more than an environmental organization awarding certification as meteorologists to those who research environmental issues related to weather and climate. Thus, Grimes is no more qualified to head the WMO than Dr. Beritskiy was, having no formal accredited training in Meteorology or Atmospheric Physics.

Grimes second in command at the WMO is Antonio Divia Moura who is an IPCC clown interested in environmental issues above all else.

Dr. Moura, Vice President of WMO holds a Ph.D. from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology(1974), where he received the Carl Gustav Rossby Award for the most outstanding Meteorology thesis of the year. He also holds an Electrical Engineer degree from UFMG, Brazil (1969).Yet just another environmentalist with a Ph.D. in the capability to manipulate data to fit an agenda.

The third Vice President of this pseudo climate organization is Abdalah Mokssit who needs no further background scrutiny since he is the Vice Chair of the IPCC. Academically he is an expert at providing climate scenarios through manipulating computer models.
Perhaps the most interesting placebo climate scientist of all is Christiana Figueres who is the United Nations Climatic Chief and top climate official. This woman has absolutely no academic background in climate, weather or related science, having only a Masters Degree in Social Anthropology. What she is, is a politician, big time environmentalist and GW/CC promoter. Not someone qualified in anyone’s mind to be in the position of dictating world climate policy.

If GW/CC was the great threat to the planet we are told it is then why isn’t it being presented and examined by the world’s great actual climate scientists and meteorologists? It is simply because it is a political based scheme for control and financial gain for those behind the cause, offering flawed data and manipulated computer models in place of actual recorded and visual fact. Scientifically, nothing we are told or shown in this genre can be proven because it is all based on fictional forecasted models of a scenario from the minds of sinister people for dubious purposes.

It is time we require individuals in the business of climate science to be actual climate scientists and meteorologists not placebo meteorologists passing themselves off as authentic.

http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/page/3/

 

Any punter examining the global warming religion from its origins to now.

Could only possible come up with one answer.

Its a scam.

You dont have to be a rocket scientist to work that out.

 

All depends on what you want to read and believe. Most scientist including so called skeptics acknowledge climate change and that man contributes but to what extent is debatable in the thinking of the skeptic. The funny thing is that sceptical scientists haven't ruled out AGW. My thinking, based on scientists that believe and those that aren't sure(so called skeptics) is that we need to do something, which most expert economists believe an ets is the best option but obviously acknowledge there are teething problems. The system will work itself out, and hang the crooks who are trying to scam the system.