The knowledge of God avoids crime and corruption in devotee

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  1. dattaswami

    dattaswami New Member

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    The knowledge of God avoids crime and corruption in devotee

    When the criminal nature is put off, – society becomes peaceful.
    Similarly the devotee will not be corrupt – by knowing God’s nature.
    God will give you whatever is necessary – at the appropriate time.
    You are His devotee, why to worry? – no need of corruption.
    Even if you accumulate wealth, – it may harm your family.
    Your child may be spoiled due wealth, – then wealth is harmful.
    Yes, the wealth is terrible poison, – if it is earned by corruption.
    God may bless your child directly – to earn infinite wealth here,
    If He is pleased with your selfless service, - which is better?
    The knowledge of God avoids – crime and corruption in devotee.

    If individuals are transformed – the society is perfectly peaceful.
    You cannot control crime and corruption – by employing controllers.
    Controllers become criminal and corrupt, – no end to your effort.
    Ancient kings supported – the propagation of spiritual knowledge.
    It could control the sin, – crime and corruption are the two halves of
    The sin, you are spending ten times – on employing controllers, but
    There is no trace of control, - spend a small part of it on scholars
    To propagate spiritual knowledge, – the sin is controlled fully.

    In the name of secularism – the present Government neglects
    This aspect and tries to cure – symptom of disease but not cause.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Definitely right...

    Christianity like Islam, teaches Sexual Prudence as the fundamental basis for a safe and sinless society.

    Crime rise almost double for every rise in illegitimacy.



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    These numerical facts come to us by way of the science that Statistically analyzes the single mother relationship, and it shows that within the Black Community where 70%of the children are fatherless the demographic also highlites the connection between sane racial bias which is Academically Correct.
    Howv=ever, hiding the truth because of a Culktural prevalence of Politically Correctness clouds the issues of why the mainstream society moves away from Black people, ingeneral.

    The bias is related to both crime and the fact that 70% of black kjids are in trouble withthe Law.

    What you point out about religion, supposedly the good shepherds who were to teach Sexualk Prudence, actually points at what is called racism and profiling but is really common sense and protection of one's self by recognition of the facts of life.
     
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    Absence of divine knowledge is the reason for all the sins
    The Gita says that the knowledge-fire can burn all the previous deeds.

    The reason for all sins is absence of divine knowledge or the firm realization of it to implement it in practice. If you realize your sins and do not repeat them, all your past and present sins get cancelled. Mere knowing of divine knowledge is not sufficient to give this wonderful result. After knowing, you should memorize it again and again so that you will implement it in practice. Such state of knowledge is called as ‘Realization’. Only realization can cancel the sins. Realization is the knowledge with deep intensity and is called as knowledge-fire. The Gita says that the knowledge-fire can burn all the previous deeds. The Bible also says that Jesus will come to sprinkle fire on the people in the place of water. Here, water means the process of mere knowledge. Fire means the intensified knowledge so that practical implementation of it takes place.

    Knowledge can be given by any preacher. But, God in human form like Krishna or Jesus can alone give the knowledge-fire. Therefore, a better statement will be “Please find out the contemporary human incarnation and get divine knowledge from Him. You memorize such divine knowledge so that it becomes knowledge-fire and burn all your sins so that you will be happy in this world, or let it burn all your deeds so that you will get salvation.”

    In fact, the Gita says that the knowledge-fire should burn all the deeds, which are good and bad. Such stage indicates the absence of any selfish ambition for happiness. All the actions of the soul in such state are meant for God only and there is no selfishness. Such state gives salvation not only in this world, but also in the upper world. The burning of sins only gives happiness in this world only.
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    This is the application of sense and sensibility, reason and logic; never once do you need to utter a single word pertaining to divinity to understand it's value!

    How does temptation exist when every expression of the body and mind is fulfilled?

    Are we asking how such a thing is achieved; or simply accepting an absurdity where the expression of humanity fails to nurture every life and mind where fulfillment as a result is left unrealized?

    Theft is an excellent example in thought.... Society accepts an act where law enforcement places a vehicle in the ghetto; door ajar with the keys in the ignition.
    It tempts a mind that struggles in this absurd race of chasing ridiculous tokens of worth. It places a life changing felony conviction that places this mind in an institution, a trash bin used to house wasted lives and minds.
    It's a disgusting insult to intellect..... We can't identify that it is our basis alone of assessing worth that creates and perpetuates the act within stratification of class?
    Ignorance within this self proclaimed position of "righteousness" can't understand that any life placed within an identical model of theft, would not deviate from the same choice to become the thief.
    We are masters of projection where we don't have to take responsibility for anything but our own ego. We are so brilliant in doing so, we have extended so far as to provide it with a divine form; thus removing the sense of ego from it.
    Sin, righteousness and unrighteousness, Karma and karmic attachment, heaven and hell.... All forms of projection to what is lacking in our own expression.
    So we bait the mind already knowing the choice that mind will make and then claim it has failed?... It's an insult to the act that has placed this bait, using it to ensnare a mind.... Fishing for failure without seeing our own!
    The fact that the choice exists in the first place is the failure, demonstrated in what we could offer to the voice of reason. Instead we make a choice to offer nothing within an acceptance of this absurdity as a truth within the expression of humanity.
    That brilliant mirror reflects a different focus upon the act; directing the focus where we begin to understand that our own mind has become institutionalized..... We just stand on a different side, holding on to the bars belonging to the same cage. The difference?...... We have the ability to let go.
    It's absolute insanity, we should all be placed in straight jackets and padded cells for thinking that this is an appropriate representation of the expressive potential of the mind.

    The reality is that we have become content in our elevated titles, labels within an elitist state.... A grand veil used to mask our projections where we no longer need to own what we deny daily in the expressive potential of humanity.
    Of course we have to investigate what the accepted concept of failure employs, and the huge industry that surrounds it.
    What would we do without this three ring circus?.... The judge, handing down these injustices of the mind... The attorneys, directing how the injustices should be placed... And the goon enforcer cowboy that we give a gun and use to carry out these injustices.
    I am not by any stretch of the imagination suggesting we don't currently need these positions, absurd as they might be for a mind that wanders beyond it.... In a world filled with clowns, the idiot masses.... We need some sort of order until a critical mass of minds decide to expressively extend beyond this circus act.
     
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    as long as their is poverty, there will be crime...

    I have yet to see one theocracy that is better then the USA, I will take are religious freedoms over a theocracy any day, theocracies are corrupt and lead to abuse
     
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    The reality is:

    - An evil person will perform evil acts whatever if he is religious or not. But for a good person perform evil acts need to be religious :D
     
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    There is no such thing as an evil person unless we are all to be considered evil..... Nor is there a good person unless we are all to be considered good.
     
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    A psycopath can be considered as an evil person because of his lack of empathy.

    In the name of religion people can be forced to do terrible acts, killing homosexuals just for being that. Forcing to marry a girl with his violator...

    Things that if you were not religious never you would do.
     
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    It is true that a few people exploited the concept of God for personal benefits. But, based on the few exceptions, you should not remove the basic system itself. A few railway accidents happen and due to such accidents, you should not cancel all the trains. You should concentrate to avoid the accidents. Similarly, some students might have copied in the examinations. Try to catch, such students. But, do not remove the system of examination itself. The system serves majority, doing lot of good. You forget the vast positive side of the system based on the minor negative side. The concept of God controls the sin in the society. If the concept of God is removed, lot of people will do lot of sins since already the ways to escape the punishment in courts are already available. The society will be crushed into pieces in the absence of the fear for sin. If God disappears, the hell disappears subsequently.

    The concept of sin will drown and destroy the society like a Tsunami. However, this does not mean that the concept of God is again a created view only to save the society. Such conclusions are not correct. The concept of God is basically true and we have explained the positive side of such concept. It is a real concept and hence, the positive side is also real. Of course, the minor negative side is also real and control should be implemented to check-up such negative exploitations.
     
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    I don't need any authority for knowing what is correct or not. I have my own values, not based in any authority. My values are freedom and don't limit/restrict/bother the freedom of the others with your acts. And that should be the main principle of the civilization.
     
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    So, a quick question..... Is becoming a 'psychopath' a characteristic of the individual that is genetically predisposed?

    Obviously your next example is an aspect of social conditioning, so it's pretty simple to understand where it comes from.

    So, does the responsibility lie with the individual in either of these cases?
     
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    You are correctYou should not give value to anything except analysis. You should not try to give value to a statement in the scripture because it is in the scripture. The concept of the statement of the scripture is always true and the truth stands always in any extent of intensive analysis.

    Truth never fears to stand before the verification by any extent of analysis. If the statement in the scripture fails in analysis, it means you have taken the statement in the angle of some wrong interpretation. If the statement of scripture is taken in its original correct angle, it never fails in analysis.

    The Gita starts with the praise of analysis (Sankhya Yoga or Buddhi Yoga). The last verse of the Gita says that Arjuna should analyze everything said in the Gita and accept only after analysis. Shankara condemned the atheistic Sankhya Yoga of Kapila. Then the opponent said that Kapila is said to be omniscient. Shankara refused the validity of such statement stating that tomorrow somebody may say that some Tom, Dick and Harry are also omniscient. The validity of the truth comes only from the analysis and not by any other undue consideration. Actually the omniscient Kapila, who was the human incarnation of God, is different from the Kapila, who is the author of the atheistic Sankhya Yoga. This confusion is exploited by the opponent.
     
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    Psycopathy is not a social conditioning. A person will be psycopath from the first moment of born. This psycopathy can lead you to be a criminal or not. But the psycopathy can be considered as an illness, and probably of genetic origin. But in psycopathy the re is not social conditioning.

    In the case of the psycopathy lie with the individual, but there are many example of behaviour that is under social conditioning, and mainly under religion, for example persecution of homosexuals, consideration of women as mere objects to reproduction and inferior to men. And many things like that that are under religious/social conditioning.

    I gave an easy example of evil(or possible evil, because not all psycopathsa are evil, but is easier for them for their lack of empathy) that was not socially conditioned. There can be many other evil people just by nature.
     
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    So what is the condition that makes one psychopath evil, while another is not?
     

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