The minds of white supremacists

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  1. martin_777

    martin_777 Member

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    Trolling again, Big Mouth. This was already answered ins this thread
    So, you already know the answer, but keep cycling around.

    Migrants have gathered in the criminal campaign[crusade] against Russia

    ...about 70% (!) In the capital crimes committed by newcomers[immigrants] (and only 49% of them disclosed). Depressing, quite frankly, the statistics.

    ...Thus, almost every second rape committed people from Central Asia: "At the forefront of rape - the head of metropolitan police department - Uzbekistan, on Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan." By hijacking the same car is clearly in the lead people from the Caucasus, said Kolokoltsev, resulting in confirmation of his words, the story of one truly outrageous case: "For example, we had to detain the criminals who tried to escape, driving against traffic on Ring Road. Normal person is difficult to imagine. Often, after the arrest revealed that they put the wheel man, used the drugs to fearlessly dzhigitovat[act crasy] behind the wheel. "


    In fact, going to these numbers: you see that % of colored people in Russia is very low, but it counts for 70% of the crime!

    Sorry guys for bad automatic translation. I can offer you a better translation, but you might not trust me.

    I personally watch Russian news and US news and for example we are not even close to criminal statistics of Oakland, CA or Detroit by homoside.
    Also I noticed that USA is always tend to exaggerate bad things in Russia. Like giving Russia a BBB rating, while country not even close to default, like USA, Iceland, Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal, which used to have a AAA rating.
    Also USA was hating Russia for communism, while now it's fully cooperating with communist China, with oppressive regime, which hooked USA with debts or USA allowed it to be hooked. Interesting isn't it?
    And USA is still hating Russia. This kind of USA behavior points on a deep political insanity.
     
  2. martin_777

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    Ignored. Constant trolling, off topic, you came here not to discuss political issue, you came here for other reasons.
     
  3. martin_777

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    Interesting, what you call a "threat" -"I will ignore you". That I don't want to talk to you due to your nasty, offensive, cycling style? I thought that it will serve you as a waring to stop fooling around. I was wrong. And you first started to respond my posts, so my posts definitely touching your nerve, since you can't seat calm.
    LOL.

    You know, you post here to touch somebodies nerve, (since it's your favorite phrase), I post here to touch somebodies hearts and minds.

    Administrators, this man is posting inflammatory posts and trolling. It's a complain. Want to note I never met anyone on this forum who are nastier then this guy.
     
  4. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Not in this thread.

    You do not appear to have the same definition of "trolling" as the mods on here do.


    The crime in Russia is dramatically higher than the crime in the US, despite the fact that almost the entire population of Russia is white.


    LOL, I cant imagine why.

    Are you saying you have no mainstream sources in English that support your claims? I posted my evidence...where is yours?


    And you are so clearly unbiased. LOL


    Thats the second time you've claimed to ignore me. Immediately after claiming to ignore me, you posted another response to me, heh heh.


    That is clearly not true, as you are still responding to my posts even now.


    Empty threats have little effect on me, especially on an anonymous forum.


    Of course I do. I prefer adversarial debates because I think they are more productive. I am not on here to make friends.


    To spread propaganda. Yeah, I get that.

    Which is fine. But you are going to have to get used to providing sources. I guarantee you I am not the only one on here who will ask for them. Your claims will not go unchallenged.


    LOL!

    If you want to report me, you need to use the [​IMG] Link in the upper right corner of the post you want to report. That will send an e-mail with a copy of that post to the admins for review.

    Posting "reports" in the threads themselves is unlikely to get admin attention, and may even be against forum rules.
     
  5. martin_777

    martin_777 Member

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    Trolling.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/195308-segregation-still-alive-14.html#post4311558

    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/195308-segregation-still-alive-14.html#post4311904

    Yes, as it was proved 3-4 times it's dramatically higher among the immigrants.
    Repeating and cycling around the same fact is not going to change it.

    Comparison by country for determining "color of the crime" is misleading in current case, because different countries can have different laws and different ways of enforcement.
    For example, in Russia there is no death penalty, unlike USA. And other laws & punishments are softer then in USA.

    So, in order to get a fair comparison for "color of the crime", we need to compare criminal statistics within the same country.

    As I showed above, even though criminal statistic in Russia is higher then in USA, 70% of that crime is still committed by colored immigrants.







    You are picking up on Russia, so go study Russian LOL.


    Murders in Oakland are everyday thing. Not in Russian cities.


    Inflammatory response ignored, Big Mouth. :ignore: Administrators?







    "Threats" to ignore you? Ha-hah-ha!:mrgreen:


    Touching the nerve is more productive??? I see in you nothing, but a low - level scumbag.


    Yea, lets fight this KGB agent. LOL!:mrgreen:


    You are challenging me with 90% of nonsense and inflammatory responses. This response contains 90% off topic development, done by you. You cycling around, trolling, posting inflammatory, mocking responses, thus you prove the your arguments don't hold the ground and you do get proves. Posting 3-4 times doesn't help you to lee them LOL! You fight like a female now, "I can't fight with firsts, but I will pull your hairs and scratch your eyes"! HA-ha-hah.
    Administrators?
     
  6. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    You forgot to put "proved" in quotes.

    Even the Russian language sources you used were not mainstream.


    That seems to be a tacit admission that you have no sources.

    Your word alone is insufficient to prove your claim. Sorry. Wikipedia > "martin_777".


    They apparently pale to the murders in Russia.


    http://www.naturesongs.com/cricket1.wav


    It can be, yeah.
     
  7. martin_777

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    They are. Are you Russian? Do you know what is mainstream or not? Go study Russian and come back, if you want to know more about Russia.


    You got responses are proves. Stop trolling.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/199163-minds-white-supremacists-13.html#post4309663
    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/195308-segregation-still-alive-14.html#post4311558
    http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/195308-segregation-still-alive-14.html#post4311732



    There are no data, Oakland, CA vs Russia. But what I hear in Russia and here, I am getting into opposite conclusion. I am afraid to go to Oakland, like most white Americans. I am not afraid to go to Russia.


    Inflammatory response. Administrators?


    Trolling. Administarots?
    I didn't answer "Touching the nerve is more productive", my answer was: "Touching the nerve is more productive??? I see in you nothing, but a low - level scumbag."
    Coward.
     
  8. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    So I should just take your word for it? LOL


    Request denied. It is not our job to prove your own claims for you.


    I cant stop something I never started.


    Do you think they will respond? Lets listen....
     
  9. martin_777

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    If you don't want to study Russian, but still refer to Russia, then it's your problem with your believes to the souses I use. If you want to check them, you HAVE to study Russian and understand Russian press. I used automated translation for you, see how kind I am? They are automated, they are not done by me. Go to Russia, study Russian then talk or trust me or even better - to automated translation system.







    You keep cycling around and posting inflammatory responses. But I am leaving it on discretion of the administrators.


    See? Another example of BS.
     
  10. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    I disagree.


    That isnt trolling. The admins agree. That is why they have ignored you.
     
  11. Anders Hoveland

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    "It is to be suspected that there exists a higher correlation between racial tolerance and personal income, than education. Those with more money can afford to insulate themselves from the unpleasantness of the poorer neighborhoods."
     
  12. Yoruichi878

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    According to this list of murder rates around the world:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

    Russia is the ONLY predominately white nation to be listed in the top 50 in murder rates in the world (listed at 46). The rest of the countries are almost all from South America or Africa. So why aren't you being fair about the facts and providing a complete list so that people can see the whole picture?

    You chose the one predominately white nation to use as an example that's in that top 50, yet fail to mention the DOZENS of black and latino nations that top the list? How is this fair?
     
  13. martin_777

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    Crime in the Soviet Union

    See? It clearly proves that it's unfair to compare race-based criminal statistics between countries: here is closely the same country, but with different laws and different ways of enforcement. You need races to be in the same law-wise, enforcement-wise condition to see who is more crime-minded.
    Consider also that during transitional period from USSR to Russia there was a lot of instability in the system, like for example USA had a high crime during Great Depression with these mafias with Tommy-guns. So, you should take overall country, in let's say 100 years, performance and not concentrate on times when there was just unfortunate time or recovery time.

    BTW, in the translated link I gave you here, which you believed is not a mainstream, there is a reference to MVD(Russian "МВД"), which has a direct translation as "Ministry of Internal/Home Affairs". This is their site, you can translate it with Google yourself. You can send them an email too. You can also browse this site and see what else they are writing, like making sure that they are not "racist", etc. You can do that all.

    Migrants have gathered in the criminal campaign[crusade] against Russia


    Check out this, I hope you will believe to your own American researchers:

    The Color of Crime

    Race, Crime, and Justice in America
    Second, Expanded Edition, 2005


    Crime Rates

    * Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
    * When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
    * Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
    * The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

    Interracial Crime

    * Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
    * Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
    * Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
    * Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

    Gangs

    * Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
    * Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

    Incarceration

    * Between 1980 and 2003 the US incarceration rate more than tripled, from 139 to 482 per 100,000, and the number of prisoners increased from 320,000 to 1.39 million.
    * Blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

    On my opinion, you are the one who is spreading anti-white propaganda, I am spreading the truth.
     
  14. cassandrabandra

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    you should probably also look at the authoritarian personality

    http://www.roadtopeace.org/index.php?itemid=86
     
  15. cassandrabandra

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    its a bit simplistic to compare two such vastly different societies WRT crime rates.

    It would be better to look at overall differences within the culture - a good place may be to look at comparative educational systems - see Yuri Bronfenbrenner's Two World's of Childhood (circa 1963). You see a completely different focus throughout the whole society to what you have in the US. It was only with the breakfown of the former CIS states that you start getting a massive increase in crime. economic instability, uncertainty and the sheer impoverishment of many people - plus the opportunity for crims to amass great wealth through drug and people trafficking of people despearate to escape poverty -which they had previously been unable to do was significant.

    we should probably ask why crime rates are higher in the US, and what do US black populations in general have in common with other groups who are overrepresented in crime stats.

    for example, how do Roma score on the same indices in eastern europe?
     
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    Also, a high homicidal race in Russia counts on high Islamic Terrorist activity.

    Lets see a list of Terrorist attacks in Russia

    For example, on 3 Sep 2004, in Beslan, North Ossetia were killed 366 people.
    On 26 Oct 2002, in Moscow were killed 170 peoplee.
    Just recently, on 24 Jan 2011 in Moscow airport were killed 35 people.
    And much much more people died from these evil colored terrorists.

    So, Big mouth, what is a conclusion? This is where all this high homicidal rate is coming from. Is it coming from the white man? You fail.
     
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    more than two and a half times as many women are killed by their spouses in Russia as in the US,

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/mw745335u0468647/

    another reason for the high crime rate relates to the high levels of organised crime, and specifically groups involved with drug, arms and human trafficking.

    this is not about Islamic terrorism, and to identify that as the major cause of the high level of murders in Russia is worse than wrong.

    it means that you will never address the real issues.
     
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    Let us not forget the words of the Prophet Mohammed: "Way down south in the land of cotton, old times there are not forgotton, look away, look away, look away, dixieland."
     
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    First of all, it's not canceling the fact, that Russian people are getting killed in terrorist attacks, what contributes in crime statistics. Terrorism is a crime, committed by Muslim people of color.

    Secondly, what part of Russia? Knowing my country, Islamic people treat women like s*it and killing them for betrayal, etc. We have Northern Caucasus, which his also part of Russia. You know yourself, how they treat their women, like "honor killing". Also they are living in native Russian lands, invading our territories. So, your data is not proving the fact that Slavic Russians are responsible for this. My next post also proving the fact of brutality of people from Northern Caucasus.

    Thirdly, you see "The break-up of the Soviet Union and contradictory status of women in Russia may contribute to these findings. " Laws in USSR and in Russia and their enforcement are different. About this I already talked here: http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/199163-minds-white-supremacists-14.html#post4338645
     
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    Yes, of course, Wikipedia.

    Murder of Egor Sviridov


    BTW, I already gave you a link on http://www.politicalforum.com/race-relations/195308-segregation-still-alive-14.html#post4311732

    So, what kind of conclusion we can draw here, Big Mouth? You fail.
    PS. Witness the coward behavior of this liberal, how he is trying to mess up the facts for his propaganda. This is why I am not reporting you for constant trolling in other threads.
     
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    I remember talking to a woman who was doing research - more to the west - and there was a strong link between alcohol fuelled violence and spousal killings ...

    so you are falling again into the "its all the muslims fault" rather than considering the information.


    you should also remember that many ethnic russians are living in THEIR native lands, if you want to take that kind of line.
     
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    You make a point, believe it or not about adding in terrorism.

    However, when you take a look at a fairly more recent homicide rate for any given country, I think you'll be surprised at what I found when doing a little browsing:

    http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

    Some of these are older but I did find it interesting that the US homicide rate is close to 1/3 of Russia's, and yet the US is pretty multicultural. Even more interesting is that Sierra Leone was half of America's homicide and yet that nation is almost entirely black. The Ivory Coast was even less and I listed countries that were surveyed in 2008.
     
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    You are failing to prove that it's a Slavic Russian fault, you are the one who is trying to prove me this, you posted this link, stating that it's all Russian fault. I gave you a link, proving high crime rate of 70% and high rape rate, committed by people from Northern Caucasus and Central Asia as well. We can draw a conclusion from that already.

    If you want to blame it on alcohol, then there are other "drinking" nations too, far more then Russia. See, how Western Mass Media always lying about Russia, spreading stereotypes?! And how prejudice it is. This is outrages, so called "Democratic Society". Jeee.

    Well, it's easy to find and compare. According to this top 10 drinking countries, Russia is 4 from the end. The list is going backwards, 10th - the most.

    So, France is the most drinking country: Pure alcohol consumption: 14.2 liters per capita per year
    There are 5 countries, between France and Russia-Italy, Czech Republic, Germany, Denmark, Australia.
    Russia: Pure alcohol consumption: 9.29 liters per capita per year.

    You, "Westerners" are so politically correct, that it's simply impossible for you to believe or admit that you pitiful colored people can be much worse then a white man! And Russians are always bad!
     
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    We kinda cycling over and over the same thing, I already posted responses for these kind of accusations here and here.
     
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    I've never said its russias fault.

    you are making statements that you indicate that all that is wrong with Russia is Islamists - more murders? its the fault of Islamists ... more crime - well thats because of Islamists and so on.

    if you are in Russia you would know that is not true.

    FWIW you are talking to the wrong person here wrt "westerners" views of Russia. I am often critical of the wests misrepresentation of issues relating to Russia - for example in the conflict with Georgia - but I am not interested in anyone making up stories about one ethnic group or another and blaming them for all the ills in their country when anyone with half a brain knows that this is just blind prejudice.
     

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