The NRA is suing Gov. Cuomo after New York closed gun shops as non-essential businesses

Your scenario relies on the assumption that someone who is so desperate for food that they are willing to risk being killed in order to steal yours, would somehow respond to a compromise or reasoned and rational discussion.

 

Never on this scale and never for so long...

 

My scenario was in response to 'Well Bonded' since it was he that presented the argument that if he has Ribeye steak and someone tries to take it from him, he will shoot them.

 

I didn’t make that argument. But I whole heartedly agree with it and will do the same thing if anyone tries to break into my home for any reason, not just to steal my ribeyes.

 

I edited my comment, and replaced your name with the correct member.

 

No worries. But my post still stands. Your scenario assumes someone desperate, starving and willing to kill or be killed in order to obtain food will somehow respond to a rational and reasoned argument.

 

Those must be some great Ribeye steaks to take a life that's worth less to you than the life of the cow it came from.

 

Yes, someone’s life is worth nothing to me if they intend on breaking into my home and robbing me.

 

your duly noted is duly noted

 

Saying you demonstrated something especially when made up, isn’t demonstrating anything.

 

I agree. Which is why I actually demonstrated you are wrong. You have no idea what you are taking about regarding firearms, constitutional law, due process or Supreme Court rulings.

 

Only speaking for myself, there's nothing inside my home worth taking a human life over. Only my family, those I would protect with any weapon I had.

 

and I fully support your choice in the matter.

As well as this.

 

Look up due process . Cause the usage you’re implying is wrong .

 

This is not a deflection, just a complete misunderstanding of what Cuomo did...

Complete.. Nobody has been denied a constitutional right in NY via this action...

 

No it isn’t

 

This right here is the main reason there is any gun debate in this country.

The NRA has for decades been preaching this mantra that gun owners rights are not only absolute, but as if they exist in a vacuum. The NRA minions don't give a damn about anybody else's rights, just their own. Ironic for an organization that was founded to promote gun safety, but all that changed in 1973 when they started to turn their activities into being a political lobby for gun manufacturers.

 

Closing gun shops practically speaking denies access to a constitutional right. With stupid universal background check laws, you can't even buy a gun from a private citizen because the gun stores who do the background checks are closed. I have a feeling many are ignoring those laws now.

 

The NRA has never said gun rights are absolute.

Not sure what that means, they are an advocacy group who in part exist to protect the civil rights of their members.

Still the largest gun safety organization anywhere. The number one gun accident prevention program for children, Eddie Eagle GunSafe®, has taught over 32 million children how to stay safe if they ever find a gun.

Of course, they went that direction when threats to our civil rights ramped up, including threats of confiscation. They get very little from gun manufacturers, and don't even spend that much lobbying, Planned Parenthood spends 10 times as much.

 

Yep. It would be comparable to closing media outlets and claiming speech and the press weren’t being infringed upon.

 

You're killing me, dude.... the gun stores do the background checks now??

Seriously, do you have access to a web browser??

I have a feeling most gun buyers would ignore the law 24x7x365 if they could....

 

And one could make a case for doing that with the fake news.

 

You don't know what you're talking about. The FFL holder uses the web, we have to go to the gun store for the check.

"When a person tries to buy a firearm, the seller, known as a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL), contacts NICS electronically or by phone. The prospective buyer fills out the ATF form, and the FFL relays that information to the NICS. The NICS staff performs a background check on the buyer. That background check verifies the buyer does not have a criminal record or isn't otherwise ineligible to purchase or own a firearm."

Good

 

What is your claim here? That anyone has access to NICS checks, not just FFLs? Who do you think does checks for private sales in the twelve states that have universal background check laws?

 

Some animals are more equal than others....