The Post says: give it up Mr. Present for your sake and the nation's

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  1. Brit

    Brit Well-Known Member

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    Bolded bit is probably true, but the last sentence doesn't follow from it.
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    The evidence that most folks have seen....like a video of suitcases full of fake ballots.....
     
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    And are still laughing about. That and Rudy's drunk date!
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I stopped at your second sentence because you built your entire post on a false premise.

    Trump did NOT have a lead in any poll. He was down by as much as 8 points on Election Day in most polls.
     
  5. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I said that " I wonder how long some Southerners believed that the SCOTUS would declare legal again." If anyone sees that as an invective I think that type of a person may be fearful of the question "how are you?" They would likely answer " what do you mean by that?" or "why do you ask, you must think I am not well."

    My comment about challenging the Constitutionality of the 13th amendment was theoretical play. I also never heard of a case being brought Of course I believe that humans should not be property, that belief must be a residual sentiment from when I was a Democrat.
    There is no argument that Lincoln did not include slaves held in the North because I go with the theory that Lincoln wanted to wreck the economy of the South where agriculture was what drove i's economy. Slaves were the commodity that drove the South's economy.

    I would have used the fact that Confederate states did not have representation in Congress at that time so I would have argued that any laws passed that affected the Southern states back then are unconstitutional due to Southern states not having representation for a period of time after the Civil War. That would be the only path to undo the 13th albeit nano slim.

    Do I personally believe that humans are property? Of course not.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, right. It's a worldwide conspiracy against Trump. Fruitcake territory.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’re happy with America turning into bananarepublic? Well then, tear down that wall, do away with ICE and defund the police. You Democrats surely know whatcha doing.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why, you do not think that sleepy Joe is a placeholder? Open year eyes, my friend.
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    the President according to the spirit of His tweets is going to use force to stay in power.

    there may be a martial law or some military 'coup', the constitution will be null and void because when has that ever been followed.
     
  10. Brit

    Brit Well-Known Member

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    OK, explain the logic of getting from "People voted overwhelmingly against Trump and not for Biden" to "Biden is useless".
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    what if they weren't the ones who were robbed of the election
     
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    Maybe the Trump administration and Republicans should pay someone to write up a dossier that makes up a bunch of reasons why Biden is a Chinese spy? Then they can spend the next 4 years accusing him of working for China. Hey, plenty of connections and alarming trends between his family and China.

    But that would be crazy....or childish...or show a bruised ego...or....wait....that’s EXACTLY what Democrats did in 2016 when Trump illegitimately won. Yea. Trump was called illegitimate by the MSM for 3 years and then Democrats impeached him on a totally partisan vote for reasons completely UNRELATED to Russia, which was the whole reason they tried to impeach him in the first place. I repeat. They impeached him on charges that had zippo to do with Russian collusion which is what started the whole witch hunt.

    So let’s take a step back and look in the mirror Democrats. You guys are being the biggest hypocrites in history.
     
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    A banana republic is when the POTUS fires the head of the FBI because he's being investigated, when the electoral base justifies the President's obstruction of justice, when nepotism becomes something acceptable, when conspiracy seekers have the President's ear, when the loyalty of state employees becomes more important than competence, when a President lies to the public about the seriousness of a pandemic that will have killed at least 400,000 Americans, and when he makes it look like election fraud when he has failed to convince even a single judge in the entire country.
     
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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nah... not worldwide. Just the Democrat and Republican establishment working in tandem with a media that pushes propaganda rather than facts. Your hyperbolic rhetoric changes nothing about where this nation is headed. You folks have been actively losing your minds for 4 years because an "outsider" won the job. I've seen Kindergarteners with better poise and understanding of fairness.
    The level of sheer hatred for this man is totally unfounded and actually shows that millions are damned near unhinged by the constant stream of "media" coverage.
    Crying for 4 years, THEN raising hell because Trump supporters want an honest look into serious issues surrounding this election, that's not fruitcake territory. What it IS, is the last chance to save our electoral system. If a thorough investigation isn't completed before Slow Joe and his HO take their oaths then this country is going to be split to an extent where it cannot find its way back short of actual rebellion by millions of Americans.
    I'd think that all mature adults would want this incoming president to be seen as legitimate by as many Americans as possible. Instead, we're watching a totally one-sided rush to put Democrats back in control, no matter if they're considered legitimate or not. FTR, I'd fully support Martial Law for a limited duration while a real investigation is completed. We keep hearing the blather about there being no evidence when the fact is that none of the evidence that was sent to courts is even being entertained at any level. There's a HUGE difference between a fair hearing of the evidence and a refusal to look at it at all. People who do that make the case for all sorts of conspiracy theories. What comes next is on them. This inane Red team, Blue team idiocy is causing our country to collapse from within. Since NO AMERICAN will benefit from that, QUI BONO?
     
  15. Bush Lawyer

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    Rubbish. Humpty was never ever called illegitimate. He beat what anyone could and should beat, Hillary. She conceded on the night of the election. Show me ONE Link where anyone claimed that Humpty was elected illegitimately. I bet you can't.

    You are right. Humpty was not impeached over anything to do with Russia. He was rightly impeached over his far from perfect phone call to that Ukrainian bloke during which he sought personal political favours from that bloke in exchange for taxpayer US dollars. You cannot deny that, credibly.

    Stay relevant. Going on these bizarre flights of fancy is pointless.
     
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    Matter of fact the same woman was in the leadership position in the House for both decisions. The same woman who refused to support any formal impeachment of Clinton , Bush, and Trump ( the first time). The problem was that Trump learned nothing the first time he invited a foreign power (Russia) to involve itself in getting him electeddespite the Mueller Report. He had to do it again with the Ukraine! She knew it was going nowhere in the Senate. It was a prosecution on 'principle' and it was what her caucus wanted. She also knew it not going to be much of a campaign issue for either side two years later. She was right not to schedule impeachment hearings the first time, and she was right to schedule them the second time.
     
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    The funny thing is if Trump had actually worked as hard at being President as he has trying to overturn the 2020 election, he probably would have been re-elected. LOL

    Of course he is going to fight. He knows there is a good chance he is going to be indicted after he is no longer president.
     
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    You stopped reading because you have no response. And just FYI, polls are where people vote. As the counts of those results came in, the representation of the events is accurate, and fair. How could you respond in any other way.......
     
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    What is so funny about suitcases full of fake ballots?
     
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    The courts have refused to hear the cases. This is predictable because no court wants to mess with an election after it has concluded. Lack of evidence has nothing to do with it.
     
  21. Brit

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    When a judge cites the paucity of evidence, I'd suggest in that case lack of evidence does have something to do with it.
     
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    "Perceptive consent"? In an age where more people are susceptible to manipulation via news and media and the internet then ever before, with some who's very existence is to throw dispute into any news or information??

    Good luck with that.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    As you point out, folks are "susceptible".... It sounds like you have that on good authority... Personal experience?
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    .... swing and a miss.

    The susceptible ones never realize they are being manipulated. They are the ones who can never admit being wrong.

    Something nobody who's interacted with me on this board over the years could ascribe to me.

    Also, nice deflection from the argument.
     
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    Judges are humans. You give them more credit than I do.
     

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