The question the GOPe must be mulling: Who CAN beat Hillary?

We are slouching towards a brokered convention. The math for Trump to arrive at the delegate number he needs doesn't add up; the truth is that 60+% of the votes so far have broken against him. His argument that he deserves the nomination is nothing but his lifelong history of entitlement coming to bear on the reality he faces.

Does the GOP have a legit dark horse? The choice between Hillary and Trump is just awful. Awful for the country, awful for all of us. It sucks. I'm wondering if the GOP has a way to reclaim its enthusiasm gap by pulling out a dark horse. Any ideas?

Is Paul Ryan waiting in the wings to be savior and potentially ignite the base to crush Hillary? Is it improbable?

Who else?

Ideas?

 

She may be crushed by the DOJ and wearing an orange jump suit by the time inauguration day rolls around.

 

Let's set aside the deus ex machina and talk about the real possibilities.

Who do you have?

 

While I think it's highly unlikely- John Kasich is in my opinion the best candidate in the race. This guy is competence, logic, character and courage, running against a field of horse apples.

His name was never known well enough and he's not got the exposure that the media heaps on whoever is out front or throws the most mud. He is however,the guy I believe would do the best job by far. I'm hoping that he starts gaining momentum and comes to the top in a brokered situation. I don't think any other conservative would have a chance of winning.

 

Hillary and her staff have apparently broken several laws like storing classified material in an unapproved unsecure location connected to the internet exposing it to hackers.

 

Who can beat Hillary? Probably her cell mate. Cuff that criminal.

 

Without Trump, Probably Rubio or Kasich.

That's it.

 

Is that the only thing you're capable of saying? Also, no Deus ex Machina.

In any case, Kasich could manage it. Mr. Cruz is way, way too obstructionist and way, way too extreme, and almost everyone that doesn't support Trump hates him with a fiery passion.

 

Do you really think Ryan could ignite anyone let alone the base and the needed middle of the roaders?
If that is the GOP's plan he will be just another DOA candidate.

 

Face it, if the Republican elite denys the nomination to the candidate who has clearly gotten more votes and delegates than any other candidate the election will go to the Democrat. And if the Republican elites give the nod to Trump the election will go to the Democrat. The country is going to have a Demcratic President either way.

 

If we see a brokered convention and the GOP does not chose Trump or Cruz, it will be a big problem with the voters. We all know by now that the establishment hates both Cruz and Trump, but they can not just pull some random person who was not even running or pick someone who did not receive and support (Jeb). If they pick someone other than those 2, the only way they will have a chance in November is by picking Kasich or Rubio.

 

so i see a lot of suggestions here like paul ryan, jeb bush, john kasich, or marco rubio.

The first question I would like to ask is what do you think motivates people to support Trump? The entire list of people you mentionedhave nothing to offer a Trump voter. They all support TPP which means you would lose jobs. They are all very interventionist which means you get more wars. They all champion trickle down.

Theres no real difference between the people offered and hillary clinton.

 

Are you guys capable of setting aside that idea and exploring the options if that doesn't happen?

I honestly have no idea. This election cycle has been impossible to predict. I just wonder if there won't be some kind of 'relief rebound' or re-energization if a real, palatable conservative candidate gets somehow fielded. It seems like the democrats are strutting around like they've already won and they haven't considered the possibility that a brokered convention could BE the Deus ex Machina. Hillary still may get spat out the back; Trump may announce today that his candidacy was the most amazing April Fools joke ever played on the earth… The democrats are amazing at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Who knows.

 

With the RNC Convention Rule 40- having to win the majority of delegates in at least 8 different states, no other candidates qualify but Trump and maybe Cruz. I heard on TV the other day, since Rubio has dropped out of the race, his delegates have been awarded to the remaining candidates, and Cruz may not meet the 8 state rule now. However, there are more states to go, and Cruz may have 8 or more by convention, if that rule remains in effect at the convention. The RNC could change the convention rules, but even the suggestion of changing the rules to appear to interfere with Trump causes an uproar. If the RNC changes the convention rules, I think it's anybody's game for the nomination, but that doesn't mean the candidate would have a chance against Hillary. The Republican party seems so fractured and angry. Trump supporters bolt if he isn't the candidate. Others stay home on election day if he is. When you can't hold the factions of the base together, how do you draw in enough independents to win?

 

The GOP have dug a hole for themselves on this one. If Trump gets the nod, there is no way he is going to get the majority of the country behind him and vote for him. He is too polarizing and his rhetoric is way over the top. If they don't give the nod to Trump and give it to someone else, Trump will go third party or his supporters will stay at home thus electing a Dem president. There is no good scenario in which the GOP come out on top for this election.

 

of course there is. Realignment year. Make democrats the party of the globalists as they are and then the GOP the party of America first or nationalists.

Too bad the donors dont like that.

 

Hate, anger, and fear.

 

Keep clinging to that hope, it won't do anything for you when the GOP loses this year. Trumps over the top rhetoric is not what the majority of the U.s. supports. Only his merry band of Trumptards is behind him. BTW there is no America first candidate on the GOP. Even Trump is for himself and sends his clothing line overseas and hires foreigners to his club. He isn't America first, he is a corporate shill.

I'm willing to bet a month donation to this site that the GOP loses, care to take me up on that? No other con will.

 

how much would that be? caveat i will only bet on trump tho not the others.

 

Not sure for this site, but most is around $30.00. That will be an easy bet cause Trump is the most likely to lose out of all of them. Care to take the bet?

 

done. Assuming trump is the candidate only otherwise im voting straight dem anyway and urging everyone to do the same