The Racist History of the Democratic Party

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  1. After Hours

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    lmao, so Malcolm X didn't like liberals, but guess what? He didn't like conservatives either. So what's your point?
     
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    He liked them better than liberals.
     
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    You may want to read this before you make yourself look any more foolish.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/03/declining-labor-participation-rates/
     
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    You poor people keep claiming the Iran deal is a farce when clearly it has delayed the imaginary Iranian nuclear weapon at least fifteen years. The only arguement you have is the pretend claim that somehow Trump could have magically gotten a better deal than the countries that negotiated the agreement.
     
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  6. After Hours

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    prove it.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    It was a sham from the get-go with Iran walking all over Obama who was so intent on getting anything to tie to his "legacy" and they continue to do so making him the fool at our expense. Obama has NO idea how to negotiate or act in our best interest, his incompetence is shown in every so call deal he tries to make or policy initiative. Am I a Trump voter and supporter, nope, but he clearly would do a better job of it than this fool or his and corrupt failed Secretary of State.
     
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    The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative. - Malcolm X
     
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    From your post:


    OK that was what, over a century ago?

    How many black Republicans members of Congress compared to how many black Democrats in Congress are there TODAY?

    All you're showing through your cut-n-paste diatribe is just how much the modern Republican Party has lost it's way.
     
  10. After Hours

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    That does not prove he hated them more, only to trust them less.

    Malcolm hated both liberals and conservatives. It is what it is. He didn't like or trust either.
     
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    Both sides pander and make promises they don't/can't deliver on. For the elite republicans it's religious people, while for elite democrats it's poor black people. That doesn't mean neither side has principles - it's just politics. Republicans might have had the moral high ground before, but not anymore. Not changing is a bad thing, because our understanding of morality has evolved over time in a generally better direction. Morally, it is insane to say blacks can't marry whites or gay people can't marry, and yet most people in America used to believe in both.

    Today, republicans in the south are the most likely to oppose interracial marriage. http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/03/republican-primaries
     
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    Same old silly claim without any evidence.
     
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    obama is still unqualified. Only an idiot pays ransom.

    oh and trump is 996/1000 in business.
     
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    Don't particularly care what the Democrats of 100+ years ago did. Or rather, what the people who called themselves Democrats back then did. The name is meaningless. It's the substance that matters, and that substance has changed, along with the platform and the message of the politicians who make up the parties. I probably would have been a Republican back in the day, because the Republican party AT THAT TIME was more aligned with how I believe. But that's not the case any more.

    And similarly with the racism association with today's Republican party, that association exists because of the racists that are attracted to today's Republican party. Not yesterday's party, because that's in the past and can no longer actively affect the present and the future. What matters, for both parties, for everything, is what is happening NOW. I could understand if the things listed in the OP happened 10 years ago. Then there'd be cause to be skeptical because it would likely be the same exact people. But in real life, it isn't the same exact people. The people in the examples....are dead. You can no longer define what a party is about when you're dead. You could when you were alive.... But not when you're dead. Reagen doesn't get to define the Republicans anymore than FDR gets to define the Democrats. Because they're both dead. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush on the other hand, can. Because they are alive and active in politics.

    The Republicans and the Democrats are defined by the actions and words of their current politicians and supporters, because they are the ones alive and taking actions.

    This is a really simple concept that I know gets applied in other areas without question, even by those who are trying to use this farce of an argument as a political attack.
     
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    OOoouuu OOOuuoo

    Pick me...pick me!
     
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    Evidence of what? They are firing off missiles, they are taking more Americans hostage, they continue to support the terrorist who want to kill us and there is no real accountablity nor reprocussions.

    Prove that the agreement is working, Iran is no longer sponsoring terrorism, is no longer hold Americans hostage and that they were going to release the ones they did regardless of the ransom they made Obama pay for them.
     
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    The GOP panders to the religious right and don't do anything for them? What is the religious right fighting for that the right doesn't try to provide? Ban on same-sex marriage? If the RR got the ban, would that harm them in anyway? Would not getting the ban harm them in any way? Does the policies the GOP pander to the RR cause them to be in a perpetual state of unrest, poverty, and servitude?

    Whats with this red herring? 21% of the people they surveyed said they believe it should be illegal. Do you think this is the people the politicians are trying to go after? They are a minority of 2 states, and its not like its just white people who believe this, blacks believe this too. Go poll the BLM and see what their thought on interracial marriages are, especially if you are talking to someone about the opposite sex getting married to a white person.
     
  18. zbr6

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    The post was discussing history and how liberal revision of said history has removed all reference to the fact that the Republican party opposed slavery while the Democrat party supported it and the Republican party gave home to Black Congressmen when the Democrat party still wanted them kept as slaves.

    I'm not surprised at all by the fact you didn't make that connection as its likely you were never taught the real history of America.
     
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    So what have the democrats done for you? What policies have helped you out the most? Now, if youre black, and you benefitted from so many democrat policies, why is it that the rest of the black community has fallen lower down on the socio-economic ladder in the last 8 years and stays impoverished in the cities ran by democrats for the last 60 years?

    What policies of the GOP has been racist? I don't mean racist in the terms of doing heavy loads of mental gymnastics and speculations of the future racist, I mean out and out racist like Jim Crow racist?

    By their politicians and leaders, sure, but not the supporters. Unless you are saying the grand wizard endorsing Killary is a glaring indication of how much the KKK enjoys her falls on he shoulders? You cant choose your followers, they choose who they follow. But I ask you again, what would entice racist to follow the GOP? Is it the GOPs actions of trying to shut down the baby killing factories right outside of the minority communities which has kept their population stagnant? Is it the way the GOP calls for a change of black community violence in democrat controlled cities where the biggest cause of death for blacks 18-35 is by murder from other blacks?

    Name another situation.
     
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    Again. That was over 100 years ago. Everybody knows about America's disgusting history of oppressing blacks. What about TODAY? What about for the past decade... two decades... 1/2 century? Why is it that caused black people to move from the Republican party of the late 1800s to the Democratic Party starting in the 1930s and accelerating during the 1960s?
     
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    Rush, Hannity and Savage all gave them this wonderful story about how the party of Lincoln was so cool a long time ago and therefore is cool today. It's all about controlling the story with them. They are the party of the south for one reason alone and it's not because our southern fried friends are all intimately aware of the economics of Milton Friedman or the tenets of Burke. Most them have no clue who Bill Buckley was for that matter. But they all know LBJ stopped Jim Crow, they all know who George Wallace was and they sure know that the reason their lives are not what they desire is because some minority is getting their share of the pie. Those are the ties that bind our white nationalist party.
     
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    Here's a suggestion. Whatever course you took to become an expert on us Southerners I would suggest you politely ask for your money to be returned as they filled your head with nonsense. I studied Burke way back in the 70's in college and was reading Friedman, who was quoted in my sig for several years, shortly thereafter. Was watching Buckley back in high school in the 60's and subscriber to National Review for decades, now online. What we Southerns know is that Wallace was a race panderer who won over the black vote in order to get reelected and that Democrats were the party of Jim Crowe which is why most of us switch to the Republican party, I was vice-president of the Teenage Republicans in a major Southern city '68-'70. The new generations were already rejecting segregation and discrimination way back then and as the older segregationist Democrats died off that is how the Republicans started winning elections.

    Heck ya'll out there in California were still having race riots long after we settled the issue here.
     
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    THE PERMANENT UNDERCLASS.

    A Democrat system of racist, vote-centric, oppression of Blacks that cripples them both financially and intellectually.

    Democrats created the permanent underclass and have been using it to keep Blacks controlled.

    Even one of your greatest Democrat Presidents said "I'll have those n****** voting Democrat for the next 200 years".

    Ever wonder what he was talking about?

    THE PERMANENT UNDERCLASS.

    Democrats destroy the Black Americans ability to create and keep wealth, and destroy the education systems in Black areas so that they never learn why.

    Then they rile them up over BS manufactured outrage issues like a violent criminal being lawfully put down and send them to the polls with promises of "change" and of course handouts.

    How come after 6 decades of Democrats promising to advance Blacks has nothing happened?

    Because Democrats need...

    THE PERMANENT UNDERCLASS.

    Why would they ever in a million years bring Blacks out of the very thing that has them voting Democrat?
     
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    There are always outliers in every superset, you are the Black Swan of the South it seems. The rest of the folks trend towards the standard which is as I described. At stake is the very essence of Southern Culture and I hate to tell you but it is based upon romantic notions of a time long past laden with corrupted Christianity, racism, ignorance and intolerance. I have yet to see the Southern Charm so often associated with the South either unless you think it is charming to call the POTUS a n_gger in a bar and have the whole bar agree with you.
     
  25. Bluesguy

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    Please.........your making things up does not substitute for facts.

    The "Charm of the South" still exist and you are certainly welcomed to come down and enjoy it. We'll even excuse your prejudiced notions bent from ignorance. I bet we could even temper your spite.
     

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