The REAL Reason the Hard Left Supports Gun Control

We have the most guns and most gun deaths of any developed nation.


But I am sure that us a coincidence

 

Correct, and if enough Americans carried concealed handguns violent crime would be very rare one time events.

 

So states with the most CCW holders have the lowest gun deaths? Lol

 

NYC has been transformed into an insulated "Rich Ghost Town", that has detached itself from America.

"What happens when cities become too expensive to afford any semblance of that boisterous diversity? The author E. B. White called New York an assembly of “tiny neighborhood units.” But the 2018 landlord waiting game is denuding New York of its particularity and turning the city into a high-density simulacrum of the American suburb. The West Village landlords hoping to lease their spaces to national chains are turning one of America’s most famous neighborhoods into a labyrinthine strip mall. Their strategy bodes the disappearance of those quirky restaurants, curious antique shops, and any coffee shops that aren’t publicly traded on the NYSE."
CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/

 

I want everyone here to know that you think a ghost town is inhabited by 8.5 million people.


8.5 million.


Lol

 

Wherever there is high violent crime there are not enough armed citizens to deal with it and defend themselves.
This is really not that hard to figure out Vegas.

 

Then prove it

 

Read carefully Vegas. NYC is a "Rich Ghost Town" Vegas.

"But in the past five years, the problem of rising vacancies and monotony has actually gotten worse. It would be one thing if New York were simply trading eccentricity for accessibility—that is, knocking down fusty establishments to build new apartments with affordable housing. But the median home value in Manhattan is still over $1 million."
CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/5730

Note that City Lab is referring to Manhattan. Ordinary Americans no longer live there.

 

Lott proved the obvious years ago. Armed citizens shoot violent criminals whenever they have the opportunity. That stops crime in its tracks.

The disarmed law abiding citizens living in DP run Urban Hell Holes need to be allowed to carry concealed handguns immediately to stop the slaughter.

 

Oh Lott...the same guy who admitted he was a sock puppet regarding his work. That Lott? Lol

 

NYC....which is 5 boroughs.....is incredibly safe.

Did you know NYC is 5 boroughs? Lol

 

Try substantive rebuttal.

 

You should actually read posts before replying. It helps.
You missed this: "Note that City Lab is referring to Manhattan. Ordinary Americans no longer live there"

"These days, walking through parts of Manhattan feels like occupying two worlds at the same time. In a theoretical universe, you are standing in the nation’s capital of business, commerce, and culture. In the physical universe, the stores are closed, the lights are off, and the windows are plastered with for-lease signs. Long stretches of famous thoroughfares—like Bleecker Street in the West Village and Fifth Avenue in the East 40s—are filled with vacant storefronts. Their dark windows serve as daytime mirrors for rich pedestrians."
CITY LAB, How Manhattan Became a Rich Ghost Town, New York’s empty storefronts are a dark omen for the future of cities., BY DEREK THOMPSON OCT 15, 2018.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/10/how-manhattan-became-rich-ghost-town/573025/

 

That's nice


Why are the other 4 boroughs so safe? Lol

 

There are not alike. Are they.

 

They all have low crime.

Do you deny this?

 

There are high crime areas in NYC. Of course, Manhattan, now a "Rich Ghost Town" with average Housing cost of $1M has very low crime. The super rich in their castles are very safe.

Outside of Manhattan, where some ordinary middle class Americans can still afford to live even the enhanced police presence is having difficulty suppressing violent crime.

"A recent surge in homicides in the Bronx and in north Brooklyn has pushed the number of killings in New York City above what they were last year at this time, NYPD records show."
NEWSDAY, Bronx, Brooklyn homicides spike, putting city on pace to exceed 2017, NYPD records show, By Anthony M. DeStefano, Updated May 16, 2018.
https://www.amny.com/news/nyc-homicide-rate-1.18560680

 

It's a good thing there are no high crime areas in those big cities where everyone has a CCW. Lol

 

Where does everyone have CCW?

 

Syria? Lol

 

Why should what be on the market?

Also, if this topic was something you have studied, you'd already know that the deadliest school shooting in US history to date was Virginia Tech, and the shooter pulled that off with 2 small caliber pistols (.22 and 9mm) that had small magazines. He just brought a shitton of mags with him and knew how to change them out when necessary.

 

So selling it simply 'kicks the can down the road' to the next owner who may or may not keep accurate records. as for the rest yes, it would be largely impossible to collect records covering historical sales - the vast number of firearms would be off the radar. However it is possible to register new sales, over time (and we are talking decades) State databases would capture the movement of all new firearm sales from the store and 2nd hand ones recycled through legitimate points of sale.

And its not as if the issue is time critical firearms have been part of US society for far to long to remove them completely, even if someone wanted to (for a whole host of reason I won't list hear). If you treat gun related crime as a public health issue then gathering large scale data sets over a longer time frame is an acceptable trade off. You will gradually get better data on the point sources of illegal firearms. However also as I said earlier all States have to be on board before it would be worth the effort - and good luck with that!

 

Good luck getting the legislation passed and then compliance after that. The efforts in CN, NY, and MS are getting compliance levels of around 10% despite the penalties. I have yet to hear of any prosecutions of those not complying with the registration laws.

 

The nation of Canada attempted such, registering the purchase of new firearms while ignoring the previously-existing firearms that could not be found. But even focusing on that minute amount, not even one percent the number of firearms as the united states possesses, their registry was still unworkable. Their system was fraught with thousands of factual errors, cost a fortune just to maintain and update, and in the end it could not be demonstrated how the registry served to even assist in the solving of so much as even a single crime. As a result the nation of Canada eventually shut down the registry, and deleted all of the data found within in.

The information would do nothing but reflect what is already known at present time. The greatest number of firearms that are acquired by the criminal element come from straw purchases, meaning someone who is knowingly committing at least one felony offense, all for the sake of their own financial profit. Other sources would include theft or incidents that are simply reported as being theft, street transactions between two criminal parties, or "borrowing" from a friend or acquaintance who sees nothing wrong with allowing a prohibited individual access to their firearm.

Simply because there is room for more research to be performed, does not mean any new or relevant information can be garnered. Nor does more research mean that the problem can adequately be addressed. The problem is ultimately rooted in human nature, and no amount of studying or funding can account for such. To treat firearms as a public health issue would ultimately require treating humans themselves as a public health issue, since human beings are not a rational species. They are nothing more than a violent, reactionary, self-destructive species that has more in common with a pathogen than any other member of the animal kingdom.

 

Then why worry if it passes nationwide?