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The Secret Gay Agenda

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Wolverine, Jun 20, 2012.

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  1. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Your state constitution does not allow amendments? Wow, if California had that, same sex marriage would be legal.
     
    DarkDaimon, Aug 23, 2012
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    No I wouldn't.

    The guy who declared he was a genius in college and then later found out he had an I.Q. of 91 didn't make a choice either. Both were just mistaken.​
     
    Taxpayer, Aug 23, 2012
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  3. Southern Man

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    You're argument relies on the false premise that legal marriage is a right; it's not. It also relies on the false premise that states can't issue licenses selectively based on qualifications.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    It is eyewitness testimony and meets the standard of evidence. Care to answer the question?
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    Already did.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    marriage is indeed a right. see loving v virginia
     
    rahl, Aug 23, 2012
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    it is an anecdotal story.
     
    rahl, Aug 23, 2012
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    You alluded to an "edit", not an amendment authorized by a super-majority.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    no you didn't. that's why I keep cornering you.
     
    rahl, Aug 23, 2012
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  10. Southern Man

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    That analogy makes no sense whatsoever.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    That's already been discussed as well.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    It is eyewitness testimony.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    Yes I did. That's why I feel no need to entertain your question.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    Of course can issue licenses selectively, just not arbitrarily. If challenged, they must express the necessity for whatever qualifications they establish under judicial review. Just like any law. As to marriage being a legal right... that's well established.
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    "Marriage is one of the basic civil rights of man" U.S. Supreme Court June 12, 1967​
     
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    And if it is a choice? So what? Religion is a choice. Imagine if states started passing laws that make it illegal for Hindus to get married since marriage is ordained by the Bible. How far would that go before people would cry foul? Yet, if a person chooses to love someone of the same sex, they are discriminated against. I'm seeing a double standard here.
     
    DarkDaimon, Aug 23, 2012
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    then you realize you are incorrect then? marriage is indeed a right.
     
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    which is anecdotal, and I don't believe.

    maybe you would like to try again? provide some scientific basis for your assertion?
     
    rahl, Aug 23, 2012
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    I posted the reply you eluded to. it did not address my question in any way.

    I understand your need to dodge though. You've been cornered, and you have no way out.
     
    rahl, Aug 23, 2012
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    The analogy is this: in both cases someone made a declaration, we assume both declarations were sincere. Evidence later in their life showed the declaration to no longer be true.

    You are asserting this is proof they changed their circumstances. I'm illustrating their circumstances may not have changed, they may have simply been confused about them at the time of their declaration.​
     
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    ed·it vt \ˈe-dət\
    Definition of EDIT

    1c : to alter, adapt, or refine​
     
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    More likely it's hearsay (unless it was you who declared yourself homosexual in college). You didn't experience the relevant facts you just relayed what you were told.​
     
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    It's not arbitrary at all. If you're gay, you ain't qualified.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    That's actually a pretty good argument. Kudos to you. But religious freedom is specifically protected in the Constitution; sexual preference is not.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    I see no need to further your "I'm right because your wrong" game.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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    Just come out and call me a liar then.
     
    Southern Man, Aug 23, 2012
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