The Unanimously Liberal Tilt Of The ‘Fact-Checkers’

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    …It’s absolutely shocking that Bates didn’t bask in the glow of PolitiFact. Since March 22, these transparently partisan servants offered eight “fact checks” attacking conservatives and Republicans in defense of Jackson.

    Add to that one bizarre attack on a Trump fan on Facebook with 2,700 friends. He was ruled “False” when he claimed the Kavanaugh hearings drew more live coverage than the Jackson hearings. That is “True,” and PolitiFact is “False.” Once they started throwing around shoddy rape claims, “The Price Is Right” and “The View” had to take a hike.

    This is why Jacob Siegel of Tablet magazine proclaimed, “America’s new public-private ‘Ministry of Truth’ mainly serves the interests of the tech platforms and Democratic Party operatives who underwrite and support the fact-checking enterprise. This, in turn, convinces large numbers of normal Americans that the officially sanctioned news product they receive is an ass-covering con job.”











    Read more: https://www.gopusa.com/the-unanimously-liberal-tilt-of-the-fact-checkers/








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    his is so typical of the establishment media, big tech social media, and their so called fact checkers. They lie, they ignore, they openly take sides. All of those places are frauds. They exist to attack conservatives and conservative media while defending liberals and protecting their favored establishment media.
     
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    A rating of all these pro liberal biased so called fact checkers found that MBFC was one of the worst, the least reliable, most biased, least scientific in their methodology. Their owner and volunteers have no experience to sit in judgement of media sources and will not legally stand behind their bigoted petty small minded findings.
     
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    Fact-checking really came about in response to Trump's lies. We should go through them one by one and check for veracity.
     
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    Fact checkers are the tool of the intellectually lazy and mental midgets who can’t be bothered to judge each article or news report on its own merit and would rather censor or content control something because of where it came from rather than the actual content of what was said. Fact checkers are content control and censorship tools of bigots and idiots who use them to limit content. They are one sided and biased and exist to promote the secular left and limit the Christian Right.
     
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    Yes, objective reality has a well-known liberal bias... 0bQAe.gif
     
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    Media Bias Fact Check Literally is a written opinion site by a man with a ""Communications Degree in college"" Dave Van Zandt

    The flagrant and simplistic nature of these bogus critiques suggests that Media Bias Fact Check is either inept and/or dishonest.
    https://www.justfactsdaily.com/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-dishonest

    Discredited, self-styled ‘fact-checker’ website was served with a ‘cease and desist’ legal notice today for publishing unsubstantiated and defamatory claims against Principia Scientific International (PSI).
    MEDIA BIAS/FACT CHECK site owner admits he is unqualified and misrepresented himself as a seasoned journalist.
    https://climatechangedispatch.com/media-bias-fact-check-site-served-cease-and-desist/

    Media Bias/Fact Check bills itself as "The most comprehensive media bias resource." It's run by Dave Van Zandt, making it fair to say it's run by "some guy" ("Dave studied Communications in college" is his main claim to expertise).
    We have nothing against "some guy" possessing expertise despite a lack of qualifications, of course. One doesn't need a degree or awards (or audience) to be right about stuff. But is Van Zandt and his Media Bias/Fact Check right about PolitiFact?
    https://www.politifactbias.com/2017/10/can-you-trust-what-media-biasfact-check.html

    Don't trust Fact checkers, especially not this one. It favors fake news on the left, and to true sites that are not on the mainstream media, it labels as conspiracy theory and junk pseudo science, when the truth is just the opposite. This website is as biased and as full of lies as you get.
    https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/mediabiasfactcheck.com

    Conservatives have criticized the liberal "fact-checking" website for being subjective and often outright false.[19][20][21] On their "10 Best Fact Checking Sites," they list several objectively false and generally inaccurate left-wing "fact-checkers," including PolitiFact, Snopes, and the Fact Checker by the Washington Post.[22]
    Media Bias Fact Check sources its information from the Anti-Defamation League and the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center in order to inaccurately label right-wing websites and organizations as "questionable" sources according to Robert Spencer, who wrote to Media Bias/Fact Check's editor describing the attacks on his website, Jihad Watch, as "pure libel," afterward claiming he received no response from the editor.[23]
    https://conservapedia.com/Media_Bias_Fact_Check
    Perhaps the most jarring instance of these scams is a site called “Media Bias Fact Check” which turns out to be just one guy making up whatever he feels like about news outlets, based on what he admits is his personal opinion, while typically providing no evidence – and then altering the ratings of news outlets who point out his scam.
    https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/palmer-report-exclusive-media-bias-fact-check/2115/

    Media Bias Fact Check Is the Biggest Scammer on the Internet
    https://www.independentsentinel.com/media-bias-fact-checker-biggest-scammer-on-the-internet/

    Overall, such fallacious attacks on outsider-opinion represent an effort to strangle social discourse from the top down. In this writer’s opinion, sites like Media Bias Fact Check constitute a desperate retaliatory measure in the wake of the legacy media’s loss of collective attention, and seek to reinforce narrative control in the hands of organizations like the Atlantic Council while smearing reliable sources of scientific journalism like WikiLeaks.
    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com...ikileaks-supports-western-propaganda-machine/

    If Media Bias Fact Check were to be given a rating, they would be “Left” with “Mixed” honesty. Interestingly enough, they don’t rate themselves. Not that it matters, they’d certainly put themselves squarely in the middle as “Least Biased” with “High” ratings for honesty, neither of which are even remotely true
    https://www.tnvalleytalks.com/topic/media-bias-fact-check-incompetent-or-just-dishonest

    NewsGuard Rates OANN, Newsmax, LifeNews Less Credible than Chinese State-Run Media
    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/f...rd-newsguard-rates-oann-newsmax-lifenews-less
     
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    FB claimed in court during a recent lawsuit that their 'fact checking' was actually just opinion.
     
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    Go for it....
     
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    You're exactly right. Anyone in this age who relies on only one source for their news/facts/info is living with blinders on.
    A good example is the new law that Florida Gov DeSantis just signed. It is named the 'Parental Rights in Education' bill, which has been dubbed the ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill by critics such as democrats, liberals, perverts, and even our so called objective media. The word "gay" isn't even mentioned in the bill. Who can be against parents knowing what their kids are being taught in our public schools??? The answer: democrats, liberals, perverts, and even our so called objective media.
     
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    Fact check declares that to be false. Fact check says that your confirmation bias is clouding your objectivity.
     
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    Matthew 7:1-5
     
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    Anybody with the arrogance to call themselves a fact checker cannot be trusted.

    That's like saying they are the arbiters of Truth.

    This is an effort to try and give something credibility by naming it.
     
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    I guess you think I'm going to run and look that up...? If you have something to say, say it...

    Or don't, I'm sure it's just a waste of time anyway.
     
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    No fact checking so-called was created when nobody was believing the media's lies and they needed to fabricate their own fact checker to reference so they can say see we agree with ourselves so the stupid crap we say must be true.

    It's a scam and anybody who bought into it was just simply gullible.
     
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    You mispronounced alternative.
     
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    Yeah it's kind of like when someone says they're psychic when really all they're doing is parlor tricks.
     
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    Fact checking was around long before Trump came along. However when he did come along it exposed a lot of the "fact-checkers" for what they really were. Opinion writers.

    For instance when WAPO wrote the title of their "list" of "Trump lies" they had to put in "disingenuous" in the title because a lot of what they put in their "list" was actually true but "taken out of context" or "not fully accurate" or some other excuse. But having the word "lie" in the title also allowed many people, including many left-wingers on this forum, to claim that Trump told over X amount of lies. Completely ignoring that much of what was posted in that WAPO list was just the opinion of the "fact checker" trying to spin things into being "disingenuous", and not actually "lies". I'm not saying that Trump never told lies. But he didn't tell near as many as is claimed by those on the left.

    Another example of "fact checkers" not doing their job or spinning. "Very fine people on both sides". Snopes links to an AP article which essentially claims that Trump did not condemn white supremacists. And PolitiFact doesn't rate it as true or false. Just copied and pasted a large part of Trumps speech and left it at that.

    And another example is of Snopes talking about a debate between Trump and Biden in which Trump was asked if he would condemn white supremacists. Snopes has it listed as "mixture". They acknowledge that Trump said "Sure, I'm willing to do that." they spun the narrative to claim that Trump did not "explicitly and clearly condemn white supremacists". Never mind that it was an idiotic question to ask at the debate to begin with. Trump has spent YEARS condemning white supremacists. Even before he became President. Yet fact checkers and "news" media alike kept asking him to condemn white supremacists over and over and over. As if he had never done so before.

    *Said generally*: And no. I'm not going to provide links. Do your own homework. I've copy/pasted the link to those instances more than once over the years and frankly I'm tired of it. Do it yourself.
     
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    Don't mean to change the subject of the OP -- but -- on the subject of psychics -- someone asked why psychics don't win a lottery once in a while. The answer was, "Why don't they win them all".
    Back to the subject -- Fact Checkers might check out the true facts but then they give you their interpretation of those facts. They are biased, or, I should say bi ased.
     
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    Perhaps
     
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    A fact is a fact. An opinion is an opinion. A fact is not an opinion. Bias does not change that.
    When one dosen't win by weighing the facts the only thing left is attacking the messenger.
     
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    Actually, it does not. It takes a sheer condescending arrogance to believe that.
     
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    Exactly. You are 100% correct about them. Well said! :applause::banana:
     
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    Something MBFC excels at…
     
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    You want to believe fact checkers at 100% be my guest. I don't trust any human being to be perfect. I'm sure you have heard the expression -- "Figures lie and liars figure". There also is an old expression that goes something like -- "Believe only half of what you read and nothing of what you hear". I suggest everyone use reason, logic, and ask a few questions.
    Example -- I have a friend who was once told to do a report on something at a large company for the CEO. My friend asked the CEO how he wanted the report to turn out.
     
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    Failing to fact check is intellectually lazy. And, no, it isn't "content control" or "censorship" . . . it's just as much free speech as the articles they are responding to. The fringe right just gets butthurt when their lies are revealed for what they are.
     
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