The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

Most don’t know that the VAERS system was created as an active reporting system
Nowhere does it say not anyone can provide information. Reading comprehension

Doesn't say anything like that. Reading comprehension

Doesn't say anything like that. Reading comprehension

Wrong, the only reason to post is adverse effects. Every post has some kind of adverse effect. And there are over 40,000 that claim death after vaccination most within days.

 

It is impressive how you just jumped over data to run with a conspiracy theory with no basis in reality.

Bravo.

 

The same honest poster that posted this?

They have which is how they know that the survival rate is over 99%

Just the entire Democrat party mandating vaccines for those who already had Covid or they lose their federal jobs

So are vaccinated. Which is why Duke University just found out where they require vaccination for attendance now have over 380 Covid cases among their vaccinated.
The cruise ship that doesn't allow anyone who isn't vaccinated to board yet came back with dozens of Covid infected passengers.
You got sold a bill of goods and now you feel the need to defend it. Vaccinated are getting Covid in record rates. If they weren't, this would be over by now

 

Those aren't anecdotes. Its an active reporting system for all medical professionals. But you will ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative.
You will ignore EVERYTHING that doesn't fit your narrative.

Heres a perfect example with just Pfizer that you will also ignore.
They have provided a study in Israel about vaccinated individuals. Why Israel, because they have the highest vaccination rate in the world with over 85% vaccinated. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2.
Guess what they are finding out.
Vaccinated individuals are 27 times more likely to contract Covid than those who are unvaccinated who already had Covid
Vaccinated individuals are 8 times more likely to be hospitalized than unvaccinated who already had Covid

It’s a textbook example of how natural immunity is better than vaccination and with a survival rate of over 99% and it shows the high percentage of vaccinated needing hospitalization but for some weird reason, these laws of physics don't exist in the US.

https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

 

Its your post. You claim everyone else is under reporting except the US. You don't know why, you just claim it. Because the media told you so.

 

Are you disputing that there are numerous long term side effects that can be seen in people that have contracted COVID?

Can you comprehend the difference between death and permanent side effects?

Employees agree to certain terms when they hire on. If they don’t like their place of employment they are free to find someone that shares their beliefs.

Do you think the federal government should force employers to behave a certain way?

What percent of hospital patients are vaccinated vs unvaccinated?


You jumped over “Now run those same numbers for vaccinated vs unvaccinated” — guess it damages your partisan narrative…

 

No it is active reporting system ANYONE a can add to. It is designed so anyone can add to it because there may be effects that are not reported to medical officers I.e. people’s hair turns green six months after the vaccine - it is reported on VAERS and a follow up investigation finds that toxins green chemicals have been dumped in a nearby river




And

 

False. I stated two nations — China and India — are underreporting. I guess the next step from willful ignorance and conspiracy is to just outright lie…

I posted direct numbers of reported deaths per million for each nation from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ and https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality. Not all of us have to be fed partisan and fictitious talking points for us to regurgitate later.

 

And this coming from the same poster who posted this

I am showing your own hypocrisy.

And nowhere in those terms included being forced to take a vaccine. Especially being forced to take a vaccine when you already have better immunity than the vaccine can provide.

OMG, what planet are you on? They are trying to force them to take a vaccine they don't need.

According to US news, its nothing but unvaccinated. Which we know is a lie

 

You provided everything except what would possibly be their motivation to under report numbers. By under reporting you would qualify for less global help.

 

Oooooooohhhhh so now, the VAERS system is instituted as an anti vaxxing system.

So I didn't here a peep about how the virus and the Phiser vaccine are working in Israel compared to the US. lol

 

Mods should move this thread to the proper conspiracy theory section of these forums.

 

Its not meant for sheeple. Its only meant for critical thinkers.

 

I guess you can add that to the list of words you need to look up the definition of.

The terms of your employment can change at any time.

Why can’t you answer such simple questions? Should the federal government force employers to act a certain way?

Which is why I asked you for the data. Or are you just fabricating as you go along?

 

Do you believe China has had only 3 deaths per million or that India has had only 319 per million?

 

Yes, ever wonder why America has the 9th worst fatality rate on the entire globe? Almost every country on earth is doing VASTLY better than America. What is truly frightening is the death rate of Americans if they go to the hospital for Covid, it is damn near a death sentence. The lawsuits coming the way of the medical establishment in the next year or two could run into the trillions. They are performing worse than doing nothing at all. They are actively opposing patients that want alternate treatments, separating them from their families and making them die alone. Read the story below, it happened in my state. I believe what doctors did in this case rises to the level of manslaughter.

https://www.prvbsgirl2.com/my-dads-story-c-vid-didnt-kill-him

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

The only countries worse than America are:

 

First you claim there are numerous long term side effects that can be seen in people that have contracted COVID
And then state an honest poster would know that side effects are only possible and not universal or guaranteed.
And you don't see that as hypocritical?
That Figures

Show me a federal employment contract that states that.

I don't answer dumb open ended questions. if you want to troll you will have to find someone closer to your own age.

And I provided it
https://www.science.org/content/art...er-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

 

That wasn't the question, was it.
You provided everything except what would possibly be their motivation to under report numbers. By under reporting you would qualify for less global help.

 

That is the entire premise of what I posted.
Care to answer?

Or let me guess, a yes or no question is open ended — or do you just call everything trolling when it dismantles your entire conspiracy in one fell swoop.

Such a sad and grossly inadequate narrative

 

As soon as you answer my question that I provide first.
You provided everything except what would possibly be their motivation to under report numbers. By under reporting you would qualify for less global help.

Did you finally stop beating your wife? Are you still using cocaine? You don't know how a yes or no question is open ended?

Should the federal government force employers to act a certain way?
No
You mean you don't think they should require them to take a shower before coming to work
You mean you don't think they should require them to be drug free before coming to work
Yet you can't figure out what an open ended question is?
Tell me, what age group is it that actually falls for that? Under 15 I suppose.

 

This is a bit funny because death reported as covid death aren't always caused by covid they just died with covid. Meaning somebody comes to the hospital as a result of a motorcycle accident dies in the hospital and he had covid so he's covid death. Italy was doing this in early 2020.

It's odd you notice it only when it goes against your orthodoxy.

 

You didn’t ask a question
Deflection is a pathetic debate strategy. Even trolls try and do better

I don’t have a wife — I have a husband. Never had an issue with domestic abuse. While I have tried cocaine it doesn’t do anything for me.

Look how easy it is to answer questions when you are not trying to defend your own lies.

I agree. They should not mandate a vaccine nor should they mandate businesses hire or do business with people that go against their goals.

I see what the issue is, when I ask a question I simply want a concise answer instead of the ramblings of a lunatic unable to not see vast conspiracy in each item.

As to the age bracket — I don’t believe many of the youth have formed such a personality that requires them to see conspiracy in all topics — that is formed by years of abuse and a need to justify a victim mentality.

You have asserted that the US is lying about our numbers because it represents 20% of the world deaths while making up only 4% of the population. Do you believe the largest population centers of the world — India and China — are giving accurate numbers? Yes or no?

If no — your entire premise is refuted and you likely will find a new way to deflect.

 

If you are 4% of the population and produce 20% of the cases, doesn’t that indicate the piss-poor job you’ve done in meeting the pandemic…?

 

You are wrong. The VAERS data is not, and never was, intended to be to reviewed by medical professionals making clinical decisions. It is intended to be used by scientists and researchers as a basis for identifying potential problems with vaccine safety. It certainly wasn't intended to be used by random laymen who don't even have a basic understanding of medicine or statistics.

I didn't say it was a bad database, I said it is raw data that requires further clarification and study to reach any kind of definitive conclusion (like pretty much any data source). This is how it has always been previously used, which is why few people outside the medical profession had even heard of it prior to COVID.

Thousands of deaths potentially related to he vaccines out of hundreds of millions of doses administered in the US. Pretty much any medical treatment carries the risk of side effects, including death, some with significantly higher rates as these figures would imply for COVID vaccines.

You said "current CDC Guidelines include NOT counting any deaths that occur within the first 14-days after vaccine as a “vaccine related death.” Instead, they are all labeled a “COVID19 death” ". It is that I was specifically asking you to back up. If it's CDC guidelines, they're presumably documented somewhere.

I'd suggest you're slightly exaggerating the difference in those figures anyway (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#main_table) and the US doesn't have the highest per-capita death rate in the world.

There certainly is an imbalance between reported cases and deaths in the US compared to other high-population countries (notably China and India) but that doesn't mean it is the US figures which are significantly wrong. It seems at least as likely that those countries aren't being as honest and/or effective in recording their data. This is ironically another example of raw data which requires more investigation and clarification before any definitive conclusions can be drawn.

I've still no idea what you're talking about there. All VAERS reports are about incidents occurring after a vaccination and all of the reports include the date of the vaccination and the date of the side-effect (if it's been completed properly). Plenty of the descriptions, including the examples you quoted, refer to vaccination within hours or days and do suggest (or even outright state) that the vaccination was the cause of the effect.

What numbers. If you're referring to official reports or statements from the CDC, you should be able to easily link them. I did do a quick search and couldn't find anything that every gave the figures you quoted so I honestly don't know what you're referring to here.

Were you really trying to sneak the bolded part by to imply vaccination is ineffective?

It is true that having already had COVID gives you a higher resistance to the virus than vaccination alone. It's also true that having been infected and vaccinated gives you an even higher resistance and being unvaccinated and never having been infected a much lower one. So the fact remains that vaccination reduces the risk of infection and reduces the seriousness of the symptoms if you are infected.

 

Here's what's being reported in my state.



As you can see, fully vaccinated make up only 2% of cases, but 12% of hospitalizations and 13% of deaths.