theist chant at Muslim protesters

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  1. kilgram

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    [video=youtube;JCfwcd_Ajg4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JCfwcd_Ajg4[/video]
    Video where the atheists that went to an atheist convention in Australia answer to the Muslim protesters. With answers like "Where are the women?", and others like "Always look on the bright side of life" of the film "The life of Brian".

    [video=youtube;c2joL2Pz8oM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c2joL2Pz8oM[/video]
    And a video of the moment that atheists laugh at Muslim when they say to them, that atheists will burn in Hell.
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Such a loving religion.
     
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    Atheism and Islam are religions that are based on hatred and intolerance. You would think that they would recognize their common ground and group hug. But they are based on hatred and intolerance...
     
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    LOL. First point: Atheism is not a religion.

    Second: Christianism is not based in hatred? LOL. I have to remember you all the comments by church members against homosexuals, women that abort...?

    Third: The answers of the atheist are humoristic in difference to the Muslims.

    Fourth: All religion are based in positions of power, where people must obey God, and follow its rules. That is authoritarian and anti-freedom. Religions are forms of control people. And organized religions are based in hatred, all of them.

    Fifth: Religions have killed much more people in name of each religion than atheists in name of atheism.
     
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    Sure it is, Just because you pretend it is not does not make it true, its the same with believeing there is no God. That is a religious conviction, or rather, a hope that will be dashed.

    Christianity is based on love and the truth of God assured by the blood of Christ shed for our sin.

    The Atheists are in complete agreement with Muslims in their hatred and intolerance of Christianity.

    That may be true for most religions, including Atheism and Islam, Christanity is based on revealed truth.

    If you add up the deaths of the Atheists in the twenteth century, the figure dwarfs the wars of politicised religions together.
     
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    dang, that's like some vocal atheists and Christians here in the USA

    I mean signs like "Atheism is the Cancer, Islam is the Answer", "Atheist are going to hell"

    .... were all god's children, god loves you... but he is gonna send you to hell for not believing like me.. I am not judging you.. just telling you the truth of what god is going to do cause I speak for god.... ect... at least that is what it sounds like they are saying to me
     
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    I must remember you Pinochet, Franco, the murders in Mexico? Don't say nonsense. Revealed truth? LOL. The truth made up by people? Remember that almost everything of the bible is written by someone from the third century to the fifth century, and in different meetings of that people changed things in the religion. Christianism like all religions is something invented by the men. The men created God.

    And if God was really benevolent he would not need the faith of the people, he would show himself, and he would say clearly what he expects from the people.

    That there is no God, is not religion, because is based in the fact that any religious has been able to prove the existence of God. So it is absurd consider it, it does not affect to our life. We can live without this.

    Ah, and atheists in name of atheism have 0 killings. Christians in name of Christianism have millions of killings. If there was some murder that was atheist, yes, but he killed for atheism. That is a difference.

    Like it or not, but Christianism if it is love, why Christians hate the homosexuals? why Christians hate immigrants? Why Christians hate the women that freely choose to abort? Why Christians hate Muslim? Why many Christians hate anything that they think is leftist? That is your love? LOL.
     
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    What utter tosh!!
     
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    Um.... nope. Atheism is a belief that there is not a god based on an absence of evidence.
    Far removed from a gnostic belief that X is true. Atheism is like religion as not collecting stamps is a hobby.

    That is somewhat debatable. I am not convinced that sacrificing your son is a demonstration of love.

    Um.... nope. Atheists do not wish to kills Christians or other theistic believers. Muslims do.

    Association fallacy.

    Hitler killed millions, are all Christians bad because Hitler was?

    No reason to to resort to fallacies to oppose atheism. Intellectual bankrupcy is never justified.
     
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    This is amusing. I just started a thread this week "Atheism as Rebellion?", which served to dismiss all of the fallicious arguments found in this thread. Lol
     
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    Lets ,start with the Big ,for god and country Wars of the 20th Century ,shall we ?

    WW1=50 Million dead![as well as religion capitialists should have the lions share of course]

    WW2-80-100 million ,oh how they had time for pray at the God loved Governments,

    And thats without all the Little Wars in between .

    now specifically secular athiest Revolutions as War ,russian revolution s febuary and October about 15 000 dead.Spainish revolution about 200 000 mostly Revolutionaries ,but thats ok .Revenge of history is coming.

    And thats about it say to be fair ,us as well as them ,500 000!dead humans .

    So undisputable global wars for "God and country" 150 000 000 vs 500 000 on the pruely athieistic type revolutionary War.OK?
     
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    Atheism isn't a religion. Atheism is based on the non belief in any Gods.

    Any other bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you want to make up or are we good here?
     
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    Athieists have the social institutions of secularism ,hey religion has the churches and tax exemption ,and oh God!

    Secular says no more tax emption,the churches can pay their own way for the first time in history ,pooof ,no more religion .


    oh we will charge the faithfull if they want to keep worshipping in the governments church buildings ,hey just for upkeep of Government assets ,see thats secular thinking,tax God out of existance .as well as socialist education of course ,well science is science hey!

    hey,imagine if religion was user pays?

    Wouldn't last 10years.i reckon Nationalisation of church property would pay most nations national debts actually ,particularly in Italy ,hey ,has anyone told the solution to the IMF yet ,NATIONALISE THE CATHOLIC AND EVERY OTHER RELIGIONS ASSETTS AND PROPERTY !in italy and pay off the debt and then some for a rainy day !
     
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    The mods say that i must be more polite ,i am sorry matey for swearing at you !
     
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    church pays no taxes, faith based initiatives (our tax dollars) pays for their good works... why?

    http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/history_of_the_separation_of_chu.htm

    "When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.
    - Benjamin Franklin: in letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780"

    I do not think that tax payers should be forced to prop up the church with faith based initiatives...

    I believe a church should only pay taxes if they want to get political... should have to pay to play...
     
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    Various haters will use religion to support their hate. That doesn't make the religion bad.
     
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    Watched about 30 secs of the first vid. I have a lot of respect Ayaan and Hitchens... such fear and hatred aimed at intellectual and grounded criticism suggests shaky and wavering aspects within their own theology.
     
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    Atheism is not a religion. You're confusing religion with social identity. Now, if you substitute secular humanism or even Buddhism, then you'd be correct in saying they are religions.
     
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    Atheism is a religion.
     
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    What are the central atheist beliefs beyond a non belief in a god?

    What are atheism's holy books? Who are their holy figures?
     
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    Don't bother arguing with god botherers and religious fundamentalists. It's like p!ssing in the wind.
     
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    Nice to see true Aussies standing up and defending Australia!!

    Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi:winner::strong:Haha, those Muslims really made a fool of themselves it is like seeing them in a zoo :)
     
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    All religions suck!
     
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    Islam sucks the most

    Muslims better not messed with Australians, Australians are not like Europeans, they'll kangaroo those Muslims all the way back to Pakistan.
     
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    Not really.
     

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