These Military Vets Have Found A Smarter Way To Fight The War On Terror

It depends. Many of them cross all boundaries.

San Bernardino shooter was making like 70k a year.

It's not money, it's their religion and culture.

 

Indeed.

Look at the money the PLO pays out to their terrorists families.

 

You are talking about exceptions.

The thread is about fighting terrorists in Afghanistan and ISIS with military means and failing.

What alternatives do you have that will defeat ISIS?

 

In these dangerous and possibly 'end of days' times, yes I would.

 

The French have sent in hunter teams to Iraq to track and kill French citizens fighting with ISIS, and barring people who return from countries that have ISIS training camps is a great start. Banning all new immigration, and deporting members of terrorist front groups like CAIR and and other Muslim front groups is another necessity. Since it's a violent political ideology they can register their mosques as such, they can incorporate as 501.(c)4's and other types, and subject to IRS audits and oversight as well as FBI investigations to retard their primary recruiting efforts in this country. Examining the money trails will dry up some of the money laundering, and subjecting them to the same scrutiny their fellow travellers like neo-nazis and biker gangs get from police and Federal criminal investigation organizations. Like most immigrants most of them are only here to loot and mooch, so there is no need to pretend they have any genuine positive interest in this country or its culture and liberties.

 

Good for the French - way to go. You'll never guess what we do when would-be jihadists want to go to the ME to train - why, we take away their passports so they can't leave the effing country.

 

I realize Great Britain has always historically had its Arabophiles, mostly homosexual literary types, but never thought it would let itself open up as it has for the worst the regions have to offer like it has. A few more attacks and maybe some common sense will set in. We have the same problem here, except we are relatively well-armed as a citizenry and that tends to dampen the more brazen and overt attempts to bully and intimidate the locals; they have to rely on politicians whom nobody respects for cover and protection.

 

Since I have taken the oath to uphold the Constitution (on more occasions than I can recall) I am not about to give away any of my own individual rights nor those of my fellow citizens. The rights to privacy and the presumption of innocence are not to be given away lightly in the vain hope that it might make me a little "safer".

My odds of being killed by a terrorist are so small as to be nonexistent. I stand a far greater chance of being killed by someone with a concealed carry permit who doesn't know when not to shoot.

So when it comes to individual rights I am not so scared of terrorists that I am going to give them the satisfaction of knowing that they frightened me into giving away my individual rights or those of anyone else for that matter.

Terrorists are cowards and rely upon fear and intimidation. That doesn't work on me, never has and never will either.

 

It's your right of course, but what I've highlighted? I think you seriously underestimate the implications of the global jihad, and they'll either laugh at you or despise you for your unwitting assistance to achieving their goal. These particular terrorsits aren't cowards, they're rabid psychos and they'd decapitate you as easily as look at you. All I know is that if everyone had your moral code the jihadists would find it a walk in the park.

 

As I said I am not afraid of them or their threats of "decapitation" either.

The whole point of terrorism is to terrorize and apparently they have succeeded in your instance. And no, you are not alone.

The worst of this is allowing conniving scumsucking politicians like Bush/Cheney to take advantage of those fears to push their illegal warmongering agenda that is costing American taxpayers trillions of dollars for no benefit or safety whatsoever.

Don't let the bastards grind you down applies just as much to terrorists as it does to politicians. We the People have individual rights and no one is going to take them away from us.

 

What, you think if we ignore them they'll just give up and go away then? If you do then I'll bet you're in a very small minority. Maybe it'll take an atrocity someplace near where you for you see it with your own eyes to realise that the threat we all face is here and it's now. Anyway there's obviously no point in continuing this discussion when we have such vastly diverse views.

 

BZZZT Wrong!

Nowhere did I post anything at all about ignoring them!

In case you missed the OP the whole point of this thread is about dealing with ways to deny terrorists their ability to recruit!

If you have nothing to offer on the OP topic then sobeit.

Have a nice day!

 

It goes back to the old saying - you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

 

※→ derideo, et al,

This was known and being taught way back when I was in Vietnam.

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No Jihadist, Fedayeen, Hostile Insurgent, Radicalized Islamist, and Asymmetric Fighters can last very long without a support base.

LTG Flynn did not reveal anything new. Everyone knew that these asymmetric activities don't live in a vacuum. Resources are never really unlimited; whether we talk on the
international, regional and subregional levels --- or --- right down to towns, villages, and homes. This includes the suppression of the Financing, Provisioning, and Recruitment.

It does not hurt to have the media on your side, or at-least, counter-media operations.

HOWEVER, for people like LTG Flynn, it takes more imagination than a simple combat arms approach.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

Way too often we have to relearn the lessons of the past because everyone just wants the glory and ignores that the objective is to actually defeat the enemy.

 

They build bombs out of pressure cookers and nails.

 

Get back to me when they "build" RECRUITS out of pressure cookers and nails.

 

They don't build recruits. They use twitter and social media to radicalize the uneducated youth. It's something we can't stop.

 

Who says that we can't use twitter and social media to prevent radicalization?

 

Haha. Good luck with that.

 

Tying minimum wage to inflation will keep you from getting poorer, but it isn't going to make you any less poor.

 

But the reduction was underway well before Johnson took office and started the "war on poverty". And what has it done in the 47 years since? Nothing, no net change at all. In fact, the poorest (below 50% of the poverty level) has actually increased slightly.

 

Actually it does, which is why the policy was started in the first place. It circulates more cash into the economy, unlike policies that favor Wall Street and gambling.

 

Johnson's policies were largely dismantled by Nixon and later Congresses, so the claim 'they failed' is just creative writing. We know for a fact that 'Reaganomics' failed, about a year after it was implemented, and the series of bailouts, tax cuts, and freebies for corporations has failed repeatedly to perform any better.

 

The problem the article makes is thinking the military has not been working at winning hearts and minds and attempting to improve the quality of live over there in an attempt to remove the source of recruits for AQ and the taliban. That is completly false. Special Forces teams as well as civil affairs teams have been doing things like that since pretty much the war began. I know because I have been over there doing just that myself.
Like many people who don't know much about the military the writer of that article just assumes that the military isn't doing these things and thinks they or the people they are writing the article about have come up with some great new idea that the military wasn't smart enough to figure out.