These were the 50 most violent cities in the world in 2017 (5 are in the USA)

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  1. Max Rockatansky

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    Disagreed, but you are free to believe in your genetic superiority if it makes you feel better.
     
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    Strike Two!

    Nowhere in that link is there a direct quote from Darwin stating a belief in "genetic superiority".

    So yet another failure on your part to substantiate your BS allegation about Darwin.

    Why can't you just produce an actual quote from Origin of the Species by Darwin himself?
     
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    Son......I can't deal with your lack of reading comprehension any longer. Assuming you are White, you are putting a serious dent in Darwin's conclusion that Whites are intellectually superior to the other races........LOL
     
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    Methodology
    Using data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the FBI Uniform Crime Reporting database, and other sources, we compiled rates of gun ownership, firearm deaths including suicide, homicide, accidental death and legal intervention, and the stringency of gun laws across the U.S.




    Hmm. So the chart includes anybody that died from a firearm, regardless of if it was self inflicted, a means of self defense, even officer shootings.

    That doesn't seem to really paint the picture required, unless the picture is anti-gun.

    Also, they "normalized" for comparison... from an anti-gun advocacy.

    This.... right here... is fake news
     
  5. Stonewall Jackson

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    Doesn't make me feel better........it's just an observable fact. I wish the black race had actually invented the wheel while stumbling around in Africa for thousands of years........living in the Stone Age until the White man appeared. But me wishing it so doesn't change the facts..........doesn't change the fact that it will always be the White man's burden to take care of blacks and try to move them ahead intellectually.
     
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    Strike THREE!!!

    Ironic that all you have is your own warped confirmation bias and NOTHING ELSE to support your disinformation about Darwin.

    Unlike you I have done my research and I know that Darwin never wrote that "Whites are intellectually superior to the other races" anywhere. Darwin was opposed to slavery which is a de facto admission that he perceived all humans to be equal irrespective of race.

    It is only disingenuous white supremacists that cherry pick what Darwin actually wrote and then deceitfully MISREPRESENT it to support their racist agenda.

    Your abject failure is duly noted for the record.
     
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    The evidence refutes the bovine excrement racism spouted by white supremacists.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-19069560

     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    Sure it does. If it didn't, why would you care so much about flaunting your racial superiority? Do you have any "White Pride" paraphernalia or mementoes in your house? Do you participate on "White Pride" forums, email and social media? If so, why other than to be "proud of being white and flaunting your superiority over the black man"? Please be honest and forthright in your reply, sir.
     
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    So the professors who wrote the two articles I linked are all ' 'disingenuous white supremacists'..........LOL......you did note that one was of Indian (dot not feathers) descent........right? Just because Darwin was opposed to slavery has no bearing on his opinion that the White race was intellectually superior to blacks. Those two views were held by most in British society at that time.
     
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    I am very proud of being White......just as blacks are proud of being black.......Latinos are proud of themselves ('La Raza' the race and all)........Chinese are very proud of their culture and feel superior to other races. It's kind of normal…….<Mod Edit- Rule 3>
     
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    Did you actually read the paper or did you just like the title? What quote or section caught your eye in the paper?...if any.

    "There is no substitute for going back to the original to see what was really said and why. The point here with
    respect to Darwin is that viewing his ideas on race or gender only from the perspective of appropriators (gender)or opposing points of view (race) does him a disservice.Darwin needed to square his scientifically based theory with what he and others perceived as obvious and signifi-cant gender and racial differences. Seeing only the racism or sexism in his account conceals the more compelling part of the story: the logical turns and assumptions he had to make in order to square his science with what appeared to be social truth. More interesting and more telling, we think,is Darwin’s missed opportunity.If Darwin had been able to conceive of gender or racial group differences as having a connection to broader social forces, he might have initiated a quite different conversation, one focusing on how natural selection and the impulses of sexual selection operate in concert with environmental factors such as socialization and sociocultural constraints. Everything in his personal experience and the culture in which he was immersed, however, suggested to him, indeed insisted, that social factors had negligible value as explanatory variables outside of an evolutionarily driven mechanism. This was Darwin’s road not taken—it was not until the next century that the existing social order was understood by scientific psychology as anything other than normal, typical, and natural."
     
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    Normal for people who have nothing more to be proud about. Being proud of an accident of birth is the lowest rung on the ladder of things to be proud about. Example; I'm proud of my accomplishments, both personal and professional, in life. Race? Gender? That was just pure ****ing luck. Not much to be proud about...unless that is all a person has.
     
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    If you really think that you are either a racist or just stupid and quite ignorant of history.

    Egypt (for example) had the wheel and rock drawing show sort of chariots dating back to 8000 BC in Algeria . Etheopia and somalia also had civilization that where known to have and use the wheel.

    Problem is (if you are just stupid and not racist and want to know) that for the wheel to be effective you need something to pull it. Lots of parts of africa lacked any large domesticated animal. In those regions a sledge was usualy a lot easier to use.

    Ok so just racist.
     
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    Those two professors are no different to you in that neither of them could supply an actual quote of Darwin saying what you and they are fallaciously alleging about him.

    Darwin's opposition to slavery was IDENTICAL to what British society was thinking at that time. They abolished slavery because they saw slaves as being their brothers.

    Here is something you probably don't even know about Darwin.

    https://www.ozy.com/flashback/john-edmonstone-the-freed-slave-who-inspired-charles-darwin/31600

     
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    Actually, Moynihan did point to the trigger and you have to remember the context of his observation which dealt with the correlation between welfare programs and the disintegration of the family unit. Basically, his warning was that if you enact public policies that marginalize fathers and encourage the disintegration of the family you're going to get what you ask for and worse. Of course, that doesn't mean that every single mother is going to fail her male offspring, but as you correctly pointed out it is much more difficult for one parent to raise a child than two. Furthermore, for boys and young men there's simply no replacement for a male role model (father) in the home and I think it's unfair to expect women/mothers to fill that role. But those are the considerations that our leaders cast to the wind in their infinite wisdom and now we're finally seeing the consequences of their disregard as the first generations of these men born in the mid-1960s forward are reaching maturity. I think it's important to note, and Moynihan made this clear, this is not a race thing - it's a family thing. One of America's greatest literary figures, William Faulkner, observed that Man cannot defy nature - particularly his own - with impunity, and that's what has happened here. Politicians thought they could mess with the natural order of things - in this case the family - and now it's literally blowing up in our faces. You see this not only in the crime and violence, but what Moynihan called the "furious, unrestrained lashing out at the whole social structure" that we've seen in places like Ferguson, Baltimore and elsewhere throughout our country.

    As the old saying goes, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions (even though many have questioned the intentions of the men who crafted and enacted the social welfare programs of the 1960s). This just happens to be one of its most notable and disastrous examples.

    If you're interested, you can read more about it in the following article. Moynihan is hardly the only person who has explored this subject:

    War on Poverty Revisited
    by Thomas Sowell
    http://capitalismmagazine.com/2004/08/war-on-poverty-revisited/

    But as you alluded to in your previous post, many Americans don't want to talk about these things, and they don't want other Americans talking about it, either. If you do they'll label you a "racist", "misogynist", etc., in order to silence that discussion. Bottom line, some people don't want to solve this problem.
     
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    We're talking about sub-Saharan Africa here.......where the pure black folks lived. Egyptians weren't black. Isn't it curious to you that the only places in Africa with the wheel was used and some sort of civilizations were created were where the pure blacks were not living?
     
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    In post #193, I presented a chart of per capita data, and said it was the good data.

    In response, you immediately went hysterical and claimed I didn't understand per capita data.

    If you're supporting the use of per capita data, attacking me for supporting the use of per capita data was probably not the best way to show it. This is your screwup, not mine.
     
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    Racist and cant read english, where are you from?

    " Algeria . Etheopia and somalia "

    In case you dont realise, arab migration didnt occur till much later, berbers were largely black and yes had the wheel.

    Just like etheopians or somalians, all black.

    You should look up african civilizations and be suprised.
     
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    GD Republicans! ;-)
     
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    Our criminals are not getting free grenades with their AK-47 orders - yet.

    "Last year, Peter Springare, 61, a veteran police officer in Orebro, published a furious Facebook post saying violent crimes he was investigating were committed by immigrants from “Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown country, unknown country, Sweden.” It was shared more than 20,000 times; Mr. Springare has since been investigated twice by state prosecutors, once for inciting racial hatred, though neither resulted in charges."

    "The Dayton peace agreement, which ended the Bosnian war, required paramilitaries to disarm and decommission their arsenals. Sellers in Bosnia and Serbia have networks in Sweden’s diaspora and are so eager to unload excess grenades, often rusted from decades in storage, that they throw them in free with the purchase of AK-47s, Mr. Appelgren said. In Sweden the street price of a hand grenade is 100 kroner, or $12.50."
    THE NEW YORK TIMES, Hand Grenades and Gang Violence Rattle Sweden’s Middle Class, By Ellen Barry and Christina Anderson, March 3, 2018.
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/world/europe/sweden-crime-immigration-hand-grenades.html
     
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    You do understand that even red states have about half democrats, dont you?
     
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    Explain why those Pill Billies voted for your beloved BLOTUS?
     
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    Why don't you just say 'I hate White people'.......?
     
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    Asinine non sequitur!
     
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    Not everyone in red states voted for trump

    In most states about half the population are democrats
     

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