This Cosby bidness

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course.Which explains why Bill O'Reilly refuses to ever again mention
    his verbal { sexual in nature } harassment lawsuit.I wonder how much it cost
    the Big mug to stay out of jail.The Big mug threatened his co-worker { former
    Producer Andrea Mackris } that if she reported his behavior, Roger
    Ailes would Go After her.Because he { Ailes } can make things happen before you
    know it's coming.
    Now Ailes is out at Fox for his Sexual Bullying of female cuties at Fox.
    And to Think Rush Limbaugh thought so highly of Ailes as if almost
    Priest-like.Turned out Ailes was a Masher.A sexual predator.
     
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    WHUT?! What does Fox News, O'reilly, Ailes, Rush have to do w/COSBY? There's absolutely no comparison! Are you ok?

    Never mind........

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    WHUT?! What does Fox News, O'reilly, Ailes, Rush have to do w/COSBY? There's absolutely no comparison! Are you ok?

    Never mind........
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like the outrageously funny Billy Wilder movie { with the Lubitsch touch }
    - The Fortune Cookie - Willie Gingrich { Played by Walter Matthau earning him
    an Oscar } has to go up against CBS and it's Wall Street like fleet of expensive
    lawyers in defending his Client { Played laughingly by Jack Lemmon } Harry Hinkle
    a cameraman, who was thrown into a huge stadium tarpaulin at a Cleveland
    Browns football game during a play that took the cameraman out of bounds.
    And slightly unconscious.All caught on National TV. To the rescue comes his
    small town lawyer and Brother-in-Law Gringrich,who just so happened to have a
    closet of an office in the same huge downtown Cleveland office bldg.as those
    High price Wall Street-like lawyers charged with stopping any and all lawsuits.
    Willie Gingrich had to go deep into the ATL books to cite case law after case law
    in making his case for Harry Hinkle { who was by this time in the Hospital
    recovering at his small apartment in a wheelchair with neck brace and putting
    on a complete act { encouraged and plotted by Willie } in order to collect on a
    Negligence lawsuit.
    Gotta cite case law in order to be taken seriously.
    BTW ... In the movie .... Willie and Harry were able to pull it off.
    However ... all for nought.Seems Harry's ex-wife got wiff { c/o of Willie }
    and wanted in on the jackpot.Harry still deeply in love with the Blond sexpot
    who left him for a drummer.
    It's that Lubitsch touch. " What would Lubitsch have done " reads the sign
    atop Billy Wilder's desk.
    It's been described as " a subtle and soufflé-like blend of sexy humor and
    and sly visual wit ".
    Probably what Cosby used to attract and set the bait for his sexual
    adventures.Which he thunk at the time were mere dalliances.
    It's them dalliances that get Men in more trouble than a soufflé that
    - All Fall Down - { 1962 }.
    Dig Daddio
     
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    Hummingbird Well-Known Member

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    Wow! I see you forgot to take your meds again? Dang! Life is hard, isn't it? Well, go watch a movie - again - and relax!
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What Meds and what Movie.? One { a Lawyer } should not enter a courtroom
    with just last years Christmas present { pair of hangnail clippers } in their
    sports jacket.They need a nice thick brown leather briecase stuffed with Lots
    case law and precedent.
    Your sense of humor escapes me.
    Bill Cosby used to be a comic.Not exactly a stand-up comic.
    Now ... he's no longer even a sit down comic.Or a going blind sit-down
    comic.
    Maybe a suitable charge would be failing to be funny while either
    sitting down or standing up.So don't be surprised when you see former
    comic Bill Cosby kneeling instead of sitting in a courtroom.
    Oh ! and like Stevie Wonder wearing sunglases while he sways
    back & forth.
     
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    Most of Cosby's "victims" were starlets sleeping their way to the top. Women should be able to have men thrown in prison base on just their unsubstantiated testimony.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On the June 7th Cosby Trial in Norristown,Pa.
    Gloria Allred was escorted out { removed } when her cell phone
    kept ringing.A spokesperson for the court said that any " person " who
    has been removed from a courtroom,remains so for the duration of
    the Trial.However ballbusting,ambulance-chasing, hysterically
    motivated California snotrag lawyer Allred WAS allowed back into the
    courtroom after the recess.Probably had more to due with her ability
    to Sue,even a napkin,when duty calls.
    The question then must be asked,Is Gloria Allred,technically,a
    " person ".
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In Wednesdays Pre-Trial ? the question was bandied about as to
    IF Bill Cosby will take the stand.When he gave his first interview 2 years ago
    he stated he would Not.Take the stand.
    There is still some business to handle before the Trial resumes on
    Monday." Whether or not a defendant testifies is often up for discussion
    just before the defense presents it's case. "
    " Key evidence includes a deposition Cosby gave stating He Gave Women
    Quaaludes before sex in the 70s. He admitted to Giving { *Constand } pills
    before their encounter.



    * former Temple University employee and lead accuser Andrea
    Constand who accusses Cosby of Rape at his surburban Philadelphia
    home in 2004.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems the News Cycle has been totally driven by Politics and
    Trump did it. So no way will this Cosby Trial come close to mirroring
    the Trial of the Century { The OJ Trial }.
    I good question that needs to be asked is why did Rape accuser
    Andrea Constand visit Cosby AFTER her alleged assault.
    Plus she seems to have some her dates and times in conflict.
    Cosby wasted little time in declaring this was a Racial discrimination
    case.However the other Accuser { Kelly Johnson } is black.
    If convicted Cosby faces up to 10 years in jail and a $ 25,ooo fine.
     
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    Suspense mounts as to if The Cos will take the stand.
    That being if he can find it { he's supposedly blind or partially blind }.
    Maybe he'll use his cane and take like 10 minutes to reach the stand
    as if some old codger,incapable of seducing much younger gals.
     
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    The Cosby Trial is wrapping up and a Jury may be ready to
    decide tomorrow.Cosby's wife { Camille } was in court for the
    first time.Only one Defense witness for the Cosby side who spoke
    for 6 minutes.Bill Cosby declined to take the stand and risk cross examination
    into his past.The Trial is not being televised.
     
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    Let me say from the get-go,there is no verdict that will ease my
    mind.After all,he, along with Marlon Brando were my 2 Hero's
    in High School.What I would like to know most,is what motivated
    Bill Cosby.It certainly wasn't merely the fact he was Oh So Horny.
    There was WAY too much of a psychological bent to his harried
    sexual madness.Did he feel Compelled as if By the devil to prove
    how he could Lordy over women.Based on his irrefutable credibility
    as a famous Hollywood Icon.
    Which makes it even more a grave mortal sin. The fact he thought
    he could,coldly and calculatingly,subdue women and then have at them.
    Basically the identical mindset of a Ted Bundy.
    I think it important that Society needs to understand whatever sickness
    drove him into acts of sexual depravity.
    He was educated and thought to be an Intellectual,at one point.
    Again,I harken back to my Original point about How Bill Cosby acted
    the day he strode up the front porch of the Hollywood Playboy Mansion.
    Accompanied by a young female,he made a really crass and uncivil
    comment when he noticed Peter Lawford,on the porch with son,
    Christopher.It's in Christopher Lawfords book :
    - Symptoms of Withdrawal - { A memoir of snapshots
    and Redemption }

    Christopher was notified by Hugh Hefner to come and get father,
    Peter Lawford { Down and out in Beverly Hills } who needed a place to
    stay for awhile.Lawford was unemployable and wasted { an adult lifetime
    of Boozing and then Cocaine use }. Peter Lawford was being shunned by his
    usual crowd who no longer could handle his wayward lifestyle { constant
    Boozing and Partying }.He could no longer ask to borrow money,have a simple
    movie audition,or stay somewhere for a couple nights.
    So Hugh Hefner let him stay in one of his Playboy Mansion guest cottages.
    Until Lawford was seen talking to the squirrels as he feed them and filled
    up the trash receptilcles with empty vodka bottles.Enough was enough.
    Plus he was basically Broke.
    Cosby had the gall to say to his Chickie-pooh date after seeing
    Peter Lawford { at his worst } on that Front porch waiting to be asked to
    leave by host Hugh Hefner ...
    " Look that's Peter Lawford,Can you believe it ".
    HOW PATHETIC IS THAT ? " --- Bill Cosby
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Jury { 5 women and 7 men } where 2 members are black and
    10 white has been sequestered 300 miles away from most of their homes
    in Allegheny County.Names withheld and selected at hearings far from the
    site of the Trial { Courthouse }.
    The judge giving instructions they cannot even discuss the case
    with Family members.The Trial started last Monday.That means a full
    week.Unlike the OJ Trial { Trial of the Century } where the longest
    sequestration of jurors in American History took place.Over 9 months.
    Yet,due to a snitch in the Hotel where they were staying { an entire floor
    of the HotelInterContinental in Los Angeles } it took a mere 4 hours
    of deliberations to reach a verdict.It was accurately rumored that a
    person in charge of monitoring the OJ Jurors had heard and was
    familiar with the sentiments of those jurors the weekend they
    were awaiting the start of the Monday verdict.This insider snitch
    managed to leak to OJ's team those sentiments.That the Jury was
    near unanimous for a not guilty verdict.That is why OJ appeared
    kind of smiley facesd the morning of his verdict.he had a rough idea
    as to how the verdict would be read.
    The Jury also pulled a fast one on Monday.Saying they needed to view
    { go over } a key piece of evidence before they gave their verdict.
    Could Bill Cosby be as lucky.?
    It's anyones guess.It just takes one juror to have a hung jury.
    We have in this Country a flawed system.Jury verdicts MUST be
    Unanimous.
    That is why we need a system of Professional Jurors.
    Who get paid for rendering sane and professional verdicts.
     
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    There should be no statute of limitations when it comes to rape or any other serious/violent crime. It sometimes takes a long time for a person to remember a traumatic event, and sometimes they are frightened or hesitant to come forward for whatever reasons.
     
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    There's already misreporting about the penalty.I was led to believe
    Cosby faces UP to 10 years in jail and a $ 25,ooo fine.
    Yesterday it was widely reported he could end his life in jail.
    As if a Lifetime sentence.
    10 years with good behavior amounts to a little over 6 years.
     
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    Jury deliberationss resumed this Tuesday,but not before the Jurors
    asked to review again { have reread } pieces of Cosby's 2005 deposition.
    In particular the portion where the comedian talked about giving
    Andrea Constand " three friends ".
    " your friends ," Cosby said he told her." I have three friends
    for you to make you relax. "
    Cosby eventually told police he gave her Benadryl.
    Constand { a 6 foot tall basketball staffer } said they made her
    dazed and groggy and unable to say no or fight back when Cosby
    went inside her pants.
    The jury is considering three counts of felony aggravated indecent
    assault ; the third count covers Cosby's alleged use of pills to
    impair Constand before groping her breasts and genitals.
     
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    How far this icon has fallen. What a shame. :(
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The good news is that his reign Of Rape was halted before he grew into
    the normal Dirty Old Man phase.Imagine how that would have been
    handled.He probably had an entire secret sex room/Torture dungeon
    built underneath his Philly mansion.
    Kinda like Error Flynn.Who to this day,many don't know about
    his sexual cravings and his private Sex dungeon hidden underneath
    a Living room floor.
     
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    Let's not forget that quick Jury verdicts are usually a bad omen.
    Like with the Trial of the Century { OJ } it came in under 4 hrs.
    deliberation.Same with Casey Anthony.
    Not so much with George Zimmerman. Where any bad omen was
    firmly perched at MSNBC in the form of an Al Sharpton or Lisa
    Bloom.The Never Zimmerman's.Probably not even Robert Zimmerman,
    even after they found out who that was.Does the name Bob Dylan
    ring-a-dinghy.Probably not to those commited to some rock solid agenda
    at MSNBC { The Official Obama Politburo }. The President weighing-in
    on the angelic nature of widdle Trayvon Martin.
    I doubt many in the jury box feel any true sympathy towards the
    Cosby Accuser { Andrea Constand }. Another possible omen.
    With OJ it wasn't a matter of Sympathy,just the color of his skin.
    Again,with Trayvon Martin it was ALL About skin color.
    Will skin color play a factor in Bill Cosby's fortunes.It hasn't thus
    far.But then a net worth of $ 400 Million has a way of talking.
    But then it didn't with Music Maker Phil Spector.Maybe it was his Hair.
    On a good day his hair tended to frizz-out like some New England
    witch awaiting a Salem Witch trial.
    Cosby,of course,has his cane, and his helpers and that impregnably
    permanent Cosby smile.Or is it a cocksure smirk.
    I guess we'll find out soon enough.
     
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    Over 30 hrs. of deliberation thus far.Something about the Jurors
    asking the Judge for a Mistrial.It was denied.
    I think If I was on that Jury I knowed what I'd ask for.
    A Couple Quaaludes.To see firsthand how they make you feel.
    To see what Cosby's victims felt like in the 70's.
     
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    I need to make a correction.The Jury is DEADLOCKED on
    all three counts.They could come back on ONE or All Three counts.
    Each count is up to 10 years.Cosby is 79.
    He was in court and heard about the Jury being deadlocked
    and smiled.The Jury instructed the Jurors to go back and try
    and reach a verdict.
     
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    I guess one could make the case that IF Cosby skates and the Jury
    cannot convict on any count { there are 3 counts to consider }
    that The $ 400 Million dollar Man { or comic } who no longer
    will be considered in any sense America's Dad, Father Huxtable,
    then he will end his life with people turning their heads and shunning
    in public,or private.A Swan song ending to a seniors life in shame.
    That will be enough of a penalty.
    " How pathetic is that " - [ Bill Cosby saying to his chickie pooh
    escort as he enters the Playboy mansion and seeing a washed-out
    Peter Lawford with son Christopher on the Front porch awaiting to
    be asked to leave { politely } by Owner Hugh Hefner ].
     
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    44 hrs. and counting.I think it's a record for that County as far as
    reaching a verdict.Gloria Allred is insisting that it's not over because
    the jury is actively deliberating.If they don't reach a verdict on one of
    all 3 counts Today,then they will resume tomorrow.
    The interesting fact is that the Jury comes back and asks for
    particular evidence which means they aren't actually deadlocked.
    I think this means that one or a couple jurors are acting belligerent.
    That they have their mind made up he's Not guilty.Unless all think he's
    innocent and just one or a couple think he's guilty.
    Their names are being withheld as they are not from the county
    in which the crime { rape/secual assault occurred } took place.
    I think some or all are from the Pittsburg area { 300 miles away }.
     
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    Well after about an hour { 50 + hrs. } the Judge decided that enough
    was enough.Enough deliberations already and declared a " Mistrial "
    based on a deadlocked jury.
    The Judge calling it a " probably one of the most courageous acts I've
    ever seen,and felt compelled to grant a mistrial." He was referring to
    the length of the record { for that county } setting beliberation.
    I think the record as something like 14 hrs.Which would be 2 full days
    worth.These Jurors spent 12 hrs. some days this week in order to
    reach unanimity of view on the charges.
    I think this was not a case of unanimity of view but rather maybe one
    or 2 jurors,being belligerent and refusing to actually deliberate.
    Where jury instructions consist of careful consideration of evidence
    and not making rash judgements.Like in the Movie - 12 Angry Men -.
    I trhink there may have been a mole on that Jury.
    Or someone who felt they could make history by being the one gumming
    up the works.Which is why we need Professional Juries.
     
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    This whole thing was a sham and a waste of time.
     

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