This war and how it unmasks the left and threatens them

We can argue this war is really, at it's core, about the catastrophic failure of USSR's attempt to employ socialism and marxist ideology successfully. For decades they tried but central planners and incredibly massive and incompetent beaurocratic bodies led the state to it's slow and painful death. The state oppressed freedoms and central planners attempted to control the economy instead of allowing local governments and entrepreneurs to run things, compete and innovate. Whilst capitalist societies were prospering, USSR remained stagnant and ended up collapsing, into pieces. What we are seeing today is the remnants of this collapse, a dictator who cannot accept USSR's collapse and attempting to restore a sphere of influence which a failed state once had.

This war is also a threat to the left wingers and marxists within this country who have been trying to sow discord from within, who have attempted to divide us and convince everyone that the United States, our founding principles and capitalism represent evils. Now we are seeing what real evil really is and how the United States is the beacon of light, the freest, most prosperous Country in the history of this world. Whilst marxist, socialist USSR had to oppress it's people and failed economically, the United States has been the freest democracy and most prosperous nation in the history of this world. Today, we are seeing the remnants of USSR's collapse, an economically irrelevant Russia and a dictator. These are the consequences of attempting socialism, which ends in totalitarianism and the ultimate collapse of a Country.

As these socialists and marxists continue to try to undermine this country and capitalism, this war will end up uniting Americans and remind them what communism, socialism can lead to, what a massive failure it has been when attempted and how truly special and great this Country is.

 

Errr... Those Putin lovers are all on the right...

 

I see people like Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Romney being the fiercest Putin critics. The squad probably prefer Russia vs US, they HATE US.

 

And we see many other like Taylor-Green praising Putin… I don’t think she’s in the squad..

 

What?

If there’s a lesson from the radical reformation of Russia’s economy it’s unfettered capitalism leads to high concentrations of wealth that eventually corrupts the political system and opens the door for autocrats like Putin.

I do agree the invasion of Ukraine will unite this country. Whether that will remind us of our basic principles and empower us to diligently pursue them is any one’s guess.

 

LOL at Russia being a capitalistic economic system

 

Yet Rubio, the idiot, jeopardised the security of Ukraine President Zelensky by sharing pictures of him in a meeting after being repeatedly asked not to.

There is definitely a contradictory message from the Right.

 

OP: Some ok points but I suggest that Russia's demise is more than anything a failure of democracy and the return of populist authoritarianism. It's a top-down problem that stifles creativity within essentially a capitalist system. There is a lesson in this for everybody, including (and perhaps, especially) the US.

 

Very interesting point. Or is it a corrupt capitalist system that allows the wealthy to live outside that system and avoid taxation? If you have a decent link to an intelligent article about this I would like to learn more.

 

I don't want to hear a damn thing about dictators in other countries after our fake arse mail ballot election and then the ensuing 100's of Executive Orders.

Do you want to live in a country that discriminates based on ethnicity? Discriminates based upon supposed acquaintances? Seizes property of citizens without due process? Restricts the right of movement? Restricts free speech? Restricts the press?

One guess, and it ain't Russia I'm referring to.

The end is near. Woke **** and mob rule is upon us.

 

Please define it.

Americans lead the way in reconstituting it’s economic system after the USSR collapsed. It’s a market-based mixed economy.

 

Russia’s main problem is it’s failure to adopt freedoms the United States adopted since it’s inception. The United States has been a capitalist society, enjoying the most freedoms of any other country for over 100 years. This form of capitalist, representative democracy state has resulted in unparallelled creativity, innovation and prosperity unrivaled in any other country.

China was under oppressive communist regime for many decades and therefore they have been playing catchup, opening up their economy and allowing more decentralized decision making. Still, their economic situation is far inferior to US. The gdp per capita in the whole of china is about the same as average person under poverty line in US. Think about that

Russia was part of USSR since 1920s… the idea was create liberty, prosperity and equality. It turned into oppression, totalitarianism and eventually an economic calamity. Stalin’s rule was ruthless, an iron fist. This is what you need to attempt communism, no-one wants it. Same as what Mao had to do in china.

By late 80s, USSR recognized how rotten and inefficient their economy had become, it remained stagnant for decades whilst the US economy exploded. It had become an incredibly inefficient waste of a system with central planners trying to control everything, stifling creativity, innovation and growth. This was recognized by leaders and they attempted to free up their system but this takes decades.

Putin has tried to turn things around but hasn’t fully employed the free democracy more succesful nations have employed and he is still enamoured with his own visions of restoring russia to what it once was, even if not communist again. Unfortunately, his dictatorship and inability to move on from what russia (ussr) once was, as a super power, has failed his country. He has ruled at the detriment of his country, suppressing freedoms and faced sanctions throughout his rule. So russia has moved on from communism but it has taken decades to fix the problems comminism created and putin has failed to fully embrace the free democracies of the west.

 

Since when did Sanders and his followers move to the right?

 

And she certainly represents all Republicans........................

 

Great statement, bro. I agree 100%.

 

Yep.

 

So you actually believe that the USSR collapsed because of capitalism?

That may be half true.... To the degree it was external capitalistic influence.

Certainly not because the USSR itself was capitalist.

I could hardly think of a more backwards thing to say

 

Quick pop quiz question..... Which senator took his honeymoon in Moscow?

 

they are a state capitalism. which is what we became when we started bailing out the 'too big to fail's

 

Nonsense.
Socialism an communism didn't bring this war on. That is still there.
It is about one man's loopy ambition to retake land he thinks belongs to Russia.
I would compare it to Israel or the Taliban in Syria.
It is the end game in the results of WW1 and WW2 when new national borders were drawn up and fundamental nationalists still want to turn back the clock and be what they were then.
It has nothing to do with HOW those countries are run. It is just naked nationalism.

BTW if you want to rouse some patriotic unity , you could start with flying planes to the Ukraine border to bring aid and bring back refugees.
Once again the war is not fought on your soil so it is far easier to pontificate about political ideology when children are being blown up half way across the world.

 

Be sure to petition your government officials to send the aid planes from France and when you've emptied the plane take all the refugees from Ukraine you want.

Oh my bad I guess you meant the US is supposed to do that right?

 

Don't know.

 

Bernie Sanders... he was quite at home in a communist country... easier for him to relax on a honeymoon.

 

So you are saying the American left isn't a proponent for freebies from the government? Free college? Free (single payer) medical? Really?

 

That would be Bernie Sanders..... Last time I checked he was a far Lefty