Thousands of Greeks join far-right Golden Dawn rally video

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  1. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so whats the big deal as turkeys air force [​IMG] violates another countrys Greece airspace, there not suppose to react to this in greece, why you say its a NWOrder now, things like this aren't suppose to escalate
    http://en.trend.az/regions/met/turkey/2114457.html
     
  3. Jeannette

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    The Greeks want their country back. They are tired of the Afghans, Bangladesh, Pakis, etc., coming into Greece courtesy of Turkey. They are tired of Albania sending in criminals with new identities and passports. They are tired of the robberies and murders occuring every night because of the illegals. They are tired of having to have metal shutters on their windows and five bolts on their doors. They are tired of having their forests destroyed through sabotage, with 556 breaking out the day the trade winds started. They are tired of chasing away Turkish jets from the Aegean, and I could go on and on.

    Golden Dawn is satisfying the needs of the Greek people. They protect the elderly :oldman: among other things, when they cash their social security checks.
     
  4. Steady Pie

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    In times of unrest the population turns to extreme ideologies.

    Putting aside the semantics of calling an extremist party right wing - Greece needs to realize that government got them into this mess and government won't get them out. Especially a fascist government.
     
  5. ThirdTerm

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    Chanting anti-Turkish and anti-American slogans, more than 5,000 supporters of Greece’s neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party marched past the U.S. Embassy in Athens on Feb. 2 to to commemorate a 1996 island dispute that caused a crisis between Greece and Turkey. The 1996 incident involved Imia, two uninhabited islets off the Turkish coast whose ownership is disputed by Turkey and Greece. Nationalists from both countries planted flags on the islets, and a military confrontation between the two nations was only averted after U.S. intervention. Three Greek navy officers died when their helicopter crashed during a reconnaissance mission in the area, some said to Turkish fire, but the incident was covered up by both countries to prevent escalation of the crisis. Withdrawal of the Greek flag was seen by nationalists as a shameful capitulation.

    http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013/02/03/golden-dawn-marks-1996-imia-crisis/
     
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    1996 incident was indeed very strange and all Turkish army officers involved are dead today , remember that if alive they would be in their 40's today ;)
    Airspace violations are happening every day from both sides.
    30.000 people are not a big protesting crowd given that Athens has 4m citizens .
     
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    With the GOP pandering for hispanic votes and the Dems elected by the janitorial class,
    America is rip for a political movement for White people.
     
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    Ah yes, the altruism of Golden Dawn. Isn't it cute how protective they are of the elderly? Of course, when it comes to anyone speaking up against their thuggish Nazi policies their true colours begin to show. If you believe violence, attacking political opponents and anyone who disagrees with them is satisfying anyone's needs, then you need to get your head read sweetie.
    Then again you're a holocaust denier so it's no real surprise that you view belligerent fascist thugs as benevolent.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3596852.ece
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yeah, because just look how awesomely America has performed under your 'superior' white people. Your post is a joke mate.
     
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    No danger for the US since they are already a fascist state
     
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    I know understnd !
    It was you they refused to grant Visa !! :hug:
     
  12. mutmekep

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    Uh you are trying to hurt the patriotic feelings of a communist ....not smart cause communists don't have any patriotic feelings .

    Think the description of fascism and try to remember what happen to anyone showing dissent towards the American establishment, prove me wrong .
     
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    Some observations;

    1) No wonder greater numbers of people are walking away from the BS mainstream establishment parties. No one wants to be part of them, that is honest. One must leave truth and honesty at the door, if they are to move on up, in an establishment party, and there is no room for true national loyalty, nor can there be room for doing anything that helps the least well off. On the contrary, if you want to move on up, in one of the establishment parties, you must do everything you can to create more poverty, and remove more of the assets of a nation, into a small number of hands. In London they then reward such men with a peerage. Thus, without even needing to know every nuance of the GD, the fact remains that you cannot blame their people, if their establishment are as corrupt as that of the UK. Indeed, I can only admire them, because at least they seem to have the nuts to actually do something about it.

    2) It is all to easy and common to take a person, nation, or political party, that is not parroting the same old lines of treason and guff, and to get the media to portray them as dangerous, evil, and must be stopped. This is because any person, nation or party that speaks in a way contrary to what the international mafia want, cannot be tolerated. It cannot be tolerated, since if one nation is 'allowed' to be that way, others will see that that yes, you really were getting shafted by traitors that called themselves your establisment parties. They would then be inspired by the broad model, and soon more and more nations would want free from all of the tentacles, be that international criminal bankers, their mass immigration weapons, or their constructs like the EU, the IMF, etc.

    3) And while it is easy to portray anyone, anywhere, that wants an end to all of that as 'dangerous', all they are really a danger to are those that steal, cheat, and rots the soul of a nation. Let us not forget, that millions of innocent people have been murdered for the profit a tiny few, by the agents that call themselves our 'libral democracies'. To wit - I would regard Labour or the Tories here as far and away more dangerous the GD.

    4) The bale out's are a total scam, it is just another ruse. Look into it. Look for yourself. Just as much as scam as the Federal Reseve, and it is all part the same matrix. They are simply designed for the few to lay claim to the national assets, and the future taxes, of the people. If GD are standing up to that, and no one else is, the people are right to throw their support behind them.

    5) Who else but the Golden Dawn (and I totally agree with this), are standing up to the selling of Greece's infrastructure to Jews? Look yourself. Corrupt establishment in Greece have been going to Israel, and flogging national infrastructure to Israeli/Russian Jews. You do NOT sell the ground from underneath you.

    6) As we all know, one of the vile weapons that the EU have used, was to force the multi cultural bomb on us all. It was never about sensible, and limited immigration. Their intention was to flood different countries, with migrants, from either poor parts of East Europe, or with Muslims. Why? You get less of a consensus, the more you mix the people up. Note how Israel, despire Jews being at the forefront of immigration into other countries, do not allow mass immigration and multi culturalism into their country.
     
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    Jack Jews are not a problem in Greece, they never were and they never will be . In difference with western Europe Jews were never a factor in our region .

    Greek culture is perfectly identical with Bulgarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian and Albanian while Poles and Russians can adjust easily specially now when the majority of male farmers are married to women from eastern Europe. Truth is that any of my national will put same religion Russians closer than a Scandinavian or even a Spaniard. Also do consider that there are thousands of EU people living here , in some islands they are the majority of the population and seriously nobody cares since there aren't any significant cultural differences and nobody is going to abuse people who chose to live here because they love Greece.

    Fascism is dead and rotten , the memories of the 76-74 period are still fresh to those who lived them and you can imagine what will happen if police gets on the streets again measuring how long women's dresses are. Yes people do see XA as "a solution" but they also unknowledge their role in breaking down strikes and cooperating with police in illegal activities. Keep in mind that while they got 7% in elections communists got over 37% and this reflects the influence classic political theories have to the public .

    Yes eurosocialists are corpses here but the right (libertarians) are attempting to lure XA voters by enforcing fascist policies against workers and protest groups . I think that the "big right" will never be created because libertarians suck .

    Expecting from small Greece to start a revolution against EU is wrong , even if we did start something bigger nations will step in and crush us , it has happen before and it will happen again . If you are following the news the "radical left" leader went in the US and gave interviews to all CIA funded reporters .... in case you think that something will be left at the hands of the voters.
     
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    'Fascism' is merely what mass murderers, profiteers from it, and those that cause wars and depressions by manipualting financial markets, call anyone, or anything, that deviates from their theft and control.
     
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    I think the lack of a single party authoritarian regime in the US would rather indicate a lack of fascism.
     
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    Two parties bought with the same money (stolen to start with).

    That is what the US have now.
     
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    If you're anything like the Commies in our country, everything right of your camp is considered "fascist".

    Anyway, everyone in this country is free to criticize, ridicule and demean our political establishment without fear of going to jail for expressing their opinions. As long as you don't break the law in the process, like so many of our OccuTards did, then you have nothing to fear...
     
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    I'm surprised that Ria navosti mentioned it since the Greek jets have been chasing away the Turkish ones for thirty years. It was never publicized though, since Turkey's purpose was to hinder tourism and hurt the Greek economy. Now though its much more serious as well as brazen, and it has to do with the twelve mile sea limit that Greece will soon be claiming.

    Turkey has always made threats that if Greece extended its six mile limit to the twelve it is legally entitled to by international law, they will attack, yet Greece has no choice but to claim it, otherwise Europe will not be able to get the gas from the Israeli and Cypriot gas deposits.

    The two megalomaniacs controlling Turkey have no backing from either the U.S., E.U., and Russia in any of their claims, whether it be towards the Greek islands and their waters, or Cyprus and its waters. Turkey has shown itself to be an outlaw nation, and has managed to isolate itself from most of the civilized world. I find the recent meeting between the Greek PM Samaras, who happens to be a brilliant Harvard graduate, with Turkey's Erdogan, who is a bombastic and habitual liar who speaks only Turkish, humorous. How can they possibly communicate, but then again like all liars Erdogan will pretend to understand and make more promises, and as recent history has shown, they will not be carried through. :bored:
     
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    I guess the news hasn't reached your island yet, but the US has more than two parties now. Pass the word...
     
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    Yeah.

    And the others are..?
     
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    What you wrote here about the CIA is delusional, but then again no one said the Greeks are not paranoid...Although they might not be as much as the Turks and Arabs. But they are still a part of the paranoid Near and Middle Eastern culture. Tsipras went to our press, because it is super liberal and leftist leaning, and he knew he would get their ear.

    As for the CIA, it has no control in the U.S., and as for our foreign relations, that is up to our State Department and they are watched over by the Senate Foreign Relation Committee. :unclesam:
     
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    Too numerous for me to name off of the top of my head, but we do have independents in congress and have in the past. We have larger third parties such as the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, The Constitutional Party, etc, hell if you get enough signatures you can run even without an official party.
     
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    And how many have ever formed a Gov?
     
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    The Golden Dawn party members have taken matters into their own hands and they are attacking who they see as illegal immigrants in public and the party leader's daughter was arrested for attacking a foreign vendor at a market. The Greek government's failure to control its borders should be blamed for the rise of the extremist party because it's estimated that 90% of illegal immigrants in the EU enter through Greece and close to 60,000 illegal border crossings were detected in 2011 and most illegals enter Greece through Turkey.
     

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