Three separate shootings in UK in last week

its amazing but gun haters and gun restrictionists are often fixated on the size of men's penises/ why is this?

 

why cannot you answer his easy question?

 

You mean you're talking from a brick wall of denial. Yes, indeed.

 

You lot do not have massive hoards of lawless dealers of illegal drugs that are also the end result of crack babies and live to go out and indiscriminately shoot up the Ghetto willy nilly, in drive by shootings and also kill innocent bystanders, since those criminals are high most of the time.

These are the ones committing 90% of the crimes.
Yet you want to punish 90% of the innocent People not committing any crimes, for the deeds of 7 % of the population, and place more restrictions on those law abiding people to prevent them from owning firearms.

You lot tout peer reviewed studies that are produced in ivory towers, by academia, people well versed in Science, but little grasp on the realities of personal defense with firearms.

 

In the united states, there is an estimated three hundred to five hundred million firearms in privately circulation currently. That number is constantly modified, as available figures from the FBI show that an estimated minimum of forty one thousand more firearms are being added to that amount on a daily basis.

For the united states to take the same route as the united kingdom, hundreds of millions of privately owned firearms would need to be registered, confiscated, and ultimately destroyed. Seeing as the vast majority of firearms in circulation are unregistered, and have been since the beginning of the country, it would be impossible for law enforcement and the government to actually locate these firearms, meaning that such an approach cannot realistically be attempted.

Other countries have never, in their entire history of existence, ever had such high numbers of unregistered firearms to contend with. Meaning an intellectually honest comparison between the united states, and any other nation, with regard to firearm-related restrictions, simply cannot be done.

The above exchange is both entirely irrelevant, and a deliberate effort to try and provoke an emotional response. In simple, uncomplicated, easy to understand terms, a flame bait post.

 

I take it you can't read graphs then

 

I can at least count and read graphs. Referesh me on what it is that you can do ?

 

The graphs have been read. In fact they have been read every single time they have been presented, long before the participation of yourself. And absolutely nothing that has been presented, by either yourself or others, has done anything to actually show conclusively, that it is those who can legally own firearms, who are the ones committing the majority of these murders. It is nothing more than the causation/correlation substitution fallacy being presented to suggest that legal firearms ownership is directly related to rates of murder, when there is no evidence to prove this belief.

 

Shhhh...

 

So if counting and graphs don't work for you then ... what would ? There are none so blind as those who choose not to see

 

So what part of the states do you hail from bud ? You are about as 'British' as I am Chinese

 

I was raised in the lower Falls, off Divis. While I had a Brit passport years ago, I never considered myself Brit.

 

well when I was competing-beat every single skeet shooter in the United Kingdom several times over
Draw and fire 6 rounds into the A zone of a standard IPSC target at the yards in under 2 seconds
Testify as a court certified expert on firearms laws and firearms usage in federal courts throughout the Southern District of Ohio
earn "distinguished expert" with six different handguns in the United States Marshal's Service qualification course.
hold the national record for "pin shooting" that to my knowledge=was never broken since the course was changed two years after I set it
teach constitutional law at ABA accredited law schools

 

Speaking of graphs.....

 

Yet you are still over 50 times more likely to be shot dead than here

 

Actually I'm not. I am not part of the groups most likely to be shot in criminal violence, and I live in an area with an exceptionally low violent crime rate... yet very high per-capita gun ownership. Where I live, I am statistically no more likely to get killed than you are... and I can defend myself from potential criminals.

I'm LESS likely to face such crimes as assault and robbery than you are; so all things considered I'll take where I live over where you live.

 

Actual, indisputable evidence, that would prove conclusively, once and for all, that legal firearm owners are indeed the ones who are actively committing the majority of murders in the united states. Show that those who can pass federally mandated background checks with ease because they have no disqualifying criminal record, are indeed going out and regularly committing thousands of murders each and every single year. Show that it is indeed them, and not the criminal element that illegally possesses firearms acquired through criminal acts.

 

Short of confiscating and destroying ninety nine percent of the total number of firearms in circulation in the united states, and taking steps to insure they are not replaced over the course of time, such is not going to change to any significant or meaningful degree.

Perhaps it could be argued, theoretically at least, that the proposals being presented on the part of yourself would make a one percent difference overall, meaning one is only forty nine times more likely to be shot and killed in the united states than in the united kingdom. But such is not a worthwhile difference to bother with pursuing.

 

I have been shot and shot at, yet I am still alive, the persons that shot at me, not so much,
I have a bad habit of shooting back.

POW ! POW ! POW !

 

What nonsense. If we cut out our hard core criminal groups from our stats we would doubtless compare even more favourably. The way you guys go on you'd think criminal behaviour was unique to the US whilst at the same time claiming other countries are more violent !

 

Legal firearms owners are selling their unwanted firearms every day and often to anyone who will buy them with no checks and no accountability, hence your gun problem

 

BS . From yet another 'inadequate' gun fantasist. Grow up

 

A statement, like so many others, you know you cannot prove.

 

Wow. Nothing whatsoever that you just wrote makes one bit of sense. Not particularly surprised.

 

Talk about nonsense!